Glossary entry

English term or phrase:

said at least one connecion point

French translation:

monté sur ledit point de connexion au moins

Added to glossary by Marcombes (X)
Dec 15, 2013 17:33
10 yrs ago
English term

said at least one

English to French Tech/Engineering Patents wire cutting device
a flow shielding flange arranged about said at least one connection point
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Dec 29, 2013 10:57: Marcombes (X) Created KOG entry

Discussion

Alison MacG Dec 16, 2013:
This is standard patent language and the equivalent ledit/ladite au moins un(e) is also used in French patents. To anyone not used to patents, this French must sound just as odd as the English version. Other constructions found are "the said at least one connection point" or simply "the at least one connection point". The important point is that it is referring back to something already mentioned in a previous claim. In this case, claim 2 mentions "at least one connection point". Claim 5 then makes reference to this particular entity, so that it becomes "SAID at least one connection point". It could equally be "this/the (aforementioned) at least one connection point", etc.
Here is a French patent example:
Un dispositif de commande d’un appareil électroménager comprend au moins un commutateur optique à touche tactile (4), ledit au moins un commutateur optique à touche tactile (4) comprenant: au moins un émetteur (5), au moins un émetteur auxiliaire (7), et au moins un récepteur (12).
L’une des parois périphériques (15) d’un cache (13) ménagée entre ledit au moins un récepteur (12) et ledit au moins un émetteur auxiliaire (7)
https://data.epo.org/publication-server/pdf-document?PN=EP25...
Tony M Dec 15, 2013:
Parsing You are apparently parsing it wrongly: it needs to be read as 'arranged about ... at least one connection point', the 'said' being the equivalent of 'ledit', assuming this notion of 'connection point' has been mentioned previously?

Proposed translations

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monté sur ledit point de connexion au moins

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agree GILLES MEUNIER
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Merci
agree writeaway
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Merci
agree Yvonne Gallagher
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Merci
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sur au moins un passage d'eau

je pense
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fixé autour du (des) point(s) de connexion

Advantageously, said wire cutting device is obtained from a plurality of adjacent elements, said means for electric insulation comprising plates and bushings of insulating material, arranged between adjacent elements in at least one connection point, adapted to block the electric conductivity between such elements.

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A wire cutting device, according to claim 1, wherein said hooked blade comprises a flow shielding flange (23) arranged about said at least one connection point, said flow shielding flange consisting of surfaces protruding at an angle adapted to block a water flow at said at least one point.
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English term (edited): said at least one connection point

fixé par au moins un point d'attache

la bizarrerie de ce texte vient du fait qu(il s'agit au départ d'une traduction moyenne (automatique) d'un texte peut-être italien...
tous ces 'said' viennent de mots du genre 'ledit" (ledit dispositif étant...., connecté au dit véhicule...)
- le "said" de l'expression est donc a traiter à part suivant le contexte...
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Peer comment(s):

neutral Tony M : There is nothing 'bizarre' about this text, Patrick: it is perfectly standard EN 'patentese'.
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Good to know, thank you ! I found it really weird :-)
neutral writeaway : fwiw- en effet, l'anglais est bizarre (l'ordre des mots). at least one said connection point or one said connection point at least makes more sense imo
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c'est surtout la répétition des "said" qui m'a troublé. Il faut bien reconnaitre qu'en francais c'est un peu la même chose quand on parle de textes a connotation juridique.
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