Glossary entry

English term or phrase:

How many volts are being dropped

French translation:

de combien de volts la tension est abaissée

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Apr 9, 2013 17:13
11 yrs ago
English term

How many volts are being dropped

English to French Tech/Engineering Electronics / Elect Eng
The voltage optimiser is equipped with a power bar display:
The height of the bar is broadly representative of the savings being made
The height of the bar is a function of:
How many volts are being dropped, and
How much energy is being consumed.
It is broadly representative because we cannot differentiate between loads which yield a saving and loads which do not

Discussion

Daryo Apr 10, 2013:
@ Tony I did take a look at the other questions concerning this optimiser, and I don't have the feeling I made any wild extrapolations. There is an IN side and an OUT side, you can plug into it up to 6 devices, it can sustain 8A continuous output and peaks of 20 A, and the point of this device is to drop the OUT voltage; it does say exactly so at some point: "25V reduction – full scale at 0.5kW" (the question about the "power bar").
Tony M Apr 10, 2013:
@ Daryo Possibly; but I think you are extrapolating way too far about what this device actually does, and risk serious over-interpretation, without having more concrete context to go on; I have been following Asker's series of questions from the outset, and with my technical background in electrical and electronics, I didn't see it the same way as you from the outset.

I think caution is in order, at least until we have the full context...

Do note that there is nothing especially signifcant about the use of the passive here in EN: it is just a common-enough turn of phrase, one should be wary of reading too much into it...
Daryo Apr 10, 2013:
From what's given as ST it's possible to build a rough idea of this optimiser.
The input is the standard voltage from the grid (say 240 V); the output side is connected to some consumers and has a variable voltage. By reducing the output voltage the consumed power is also reduced, when needed.
The drop in voltage shown on this display is the reduction of voltage at the output compared to the input voltage from the grid. A drop of 25V would mean the attached consumer is being supplied with 215V instead of the 240V coming from the grid. That drop in voltage is the result of the work of this device, so displaying it shows to the user that the device is "making some savings".

Proposed translations

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de combien de volts la tension est abaissée

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Note added at 22 mins (2013-04-09 17:35:20 GMT)
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la tension est abaissée = c'est le résultat d'une action délibérée (ST: volts are being dropped)

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Note added at 3 hrs (2013-04-09 20:19:30 GMT)
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Normally, if you reduce the applied voltage, the intensity of the electrical current is also reduced (in proportion to the drop in voltage, if the electrical resistance doesn't change significantly with the change of temperature of the wire) so the consumed power (amps multiplied by volts = watts) is also reduced, not in proportion to the drop in voltage but with the square of the drop in voltage i.e. reduce the voltage by 50 % and the consumed power drops to 25 % (50 % x 50%) of the initial value.
So, yes dropping the voltage will reduce the power consumed. (that's how light dimmers work, btw, by gradually dropping the voltage applied to the light bulb).
Having said that, who and why would need this kind of equipment, I have no idea, but it doesn't change the fact that the ST is about a deliberate reduction of voltage "une tension qui a été abaissée", not a tension that dropped on its own at the point of connection to the grid.
Peer comment(s):

neutral FX Fraipont (X) : How then do you make sense of "the savings being made"? If you bring down the voltage from a high of 232V to rated 220V, there are no savings in terms of power, quite the opposite, actually. And, as I said, no shooting is intended, messenger or otherwise.
6 mins
don't shoot the messenger, that's what's in the ST: this equipment is supposed to lower the voltage, to "drop/shed" volts (=> " volts are being dropped")
neutral Tony M : That's not quite technically accurate, as F-X points out. 'voltage drop' represents a loss of voltage across a device, which can be good or bad; nothing really to do with 'shedding' as such. No, passive unnecessary here.
4 hrs
it's not that drop being measured; ST says this device is on purpose reducing/dropping the voltage supplied as output. (a bit like a light dimmer does on a smaller scale) so the passive voice should be used.
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chute de tension en volts

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quelle est la chute de tension

Je ne pense pas qu'il soit nécessaire d'ajouter "volts", l'unité de mesure de la tension étant le volt...
Peer comment(s):

agree Tony M : Oui, en effet ! Et surtout parce que l'affichage n'est pas numérique, il ne s'agit donc pas de chiffre exact, mais d'une simple indication.
4 hrs
Merci Tony !
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