Glossary entry

English term or phrase:

voltage slope

French translation:

pente de tension

Added to glossary by GILLES MEUNIER
Jan 27, 2013 17:54
11 yrs ago
English term

voltage slope

English to French Tech/Engineering Electronics / Elect Eng electric locomotives
The output filter cares for reducing the voltage slopes of the PWM voltage to dv/dt < 500 V/µs.
Change log

Jan 27, 2013 18:08: Tony M changed "Field (specific)" from "Transport / Transportation / Shipping" to "Electronics / Elect Eng" , "Field (write-in)" from "locomotives" to "electric locomotives"

Feb 18, 2013 09:40: GILLES MEUNIER Created KOG entry

Discussion

Tony M Jan 27, 2013:
Dodgy EN? I suspected as much from your previous question, but now I'm sure of it: you'll need to proceed with caution here, as you seem to have some rather defective EN (non-native writer?)

In particular, we wouldn't usually says 'cares for' in this sort of technical document; the (rather informal) term they are probably trying to use is 'takes care of'.

Likewise, I think the use of 'voltage slope' is arguably wrong; dV/dt would more usually be referred to as 'the rate of change of the voltage', and I believe needs to be translated accordingly.

Proposed translations

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pente de tension

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fraction initiale (IF) possédant une pente de tension montante dans le temps et une ... an initial fraction (IF) having an upward going voltage slope with respect to
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pente de tension

"Montage à vis / monophasé
https://www.distrelec.de/ishop/.../kfHRS-DC_data_fr.pdf
Courant de surcharge max.(10 ms). 15 ADC. 28 ADC. 106 ADC. Courant de fuite max. (Tension nominale). 0,1 mADC. 0,2 mADC. 0,3 mADC. Pente de tension ..."

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"CIPO - Patent - 2179447
http://brevets-patents.ic.gc.ca › Home › CPD
Each battery voltage slope is compared with a previously determined battery ... de la tension est comparée à une pente de tension déterminée préalablement, .."
Peer comment(s):

agree Proelec
1 day 14 hrs
merci !
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pente de tension

On mesure un potentiel en un premier point d'électrode, puis un potentiel en un second point d'électrode, pour calculer ensuite une pente de tension correspondant à un taux de changement de différence de potentiel,

http://www.google.com/patents/EP1875253A1?cl=fr
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English term (edited): voltage slope = rate of change of voltage

rythme de variation de tension

Please note that the EN term is being used incorrectly here; the definition of it as dv/dt (the differential of the voltage with time) makes it clear that we are not dealing with a slow change in voltage over a period of time (= voltage slope, e.g. for a discharging battery), but rather, with the instantaneous rate-of-change of this voltage. This is shown both by the use of the mathematical expression dv/dt, and also, the figure given of 500 V / µs (instead of, say, volts per hour etc.)

I have found plenty of examples of the expression 'rythme de variation de...' out there on the 'Net, and the collocation with dv/dt in certain examples is clear evidence.

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In a typical configuration, the output filter (low-pass) is here being used to reduce the rise-time of the waveform (typically required to avoid radiating interference due to fast rise-time wavefronts)

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i'll bet this is all about filtering the chopper output voltage? These things are notoriously 'dirty' and can produce horrendous interference if it isn't filtered out at source.

In the early days of designing the Eurostar, they had a nightmare, as the locos had to work on both the European overhead catenary system (high voltage / low current) AND the British 3rd-rail system (low voltage / high current); when the FR trains came onto the GB rail system, the higher current produced bigger arcing problems, in turn generating horrendous problems due to interference with the control electronics.

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Oh it looks as if 'rythme' may not be right here!

I've found examples of 'taux de...', and also simply 'variation de...'

Here are a few Ghits (not investigated!)

Patent EP1752248B1 - Dispositif de soudage à l'arc et procédé de ...

www.google.com/patents/EP1752248B1?cl=fr

un élément de détection du taux de variation de tension (11) pour calculer un taux de variation (dv/dt) de la tension de soudage détectée par le détecteur de ...

UFD34 Nc 049-1E - Microener

www.microener.com/contenu/.../08/UFD34-Nc-049-1E.pdf

F81 : 4 seuils à Maxi/Mini de fréquence. 27/59 : 2 seuils à Maxi/Mini de tension dv/dt : 1 seuil à variation de tension ...

MicroElec - Les condensateurs

www.microelec.patricklecoq.fr › Elec › Composants

est la variation de tension avec le temps. .... petit peu de bruit lorsque le dV/dt (courant donc) est élevé (grande amplitude de signal ou très haute fréquence).

Accu LI-PO et autres technologies . - Page 2

forums.futura-sciences.com › ... › Électronique

La courbe tension en fonction du temps est quasiment horizontale, donc la variation de tension par rapport à la variation de temps ou dV/dt est ...

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Rien à voir avec les bateaux : le chargeur de téléphone portable

www.hisse-et-oh.com/.../174488-rien-a-voir-avec-les-batea.....

DV/DT DV = variation de tension, DT = variation...


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If the source text is indeed unreliable, as I suspect, then I believe the correct term here would be 'slew rate'
Peer comment(s):

neutral Alain Boulé : another term could be "front de tension". Filtrer revient à réduire les fronts de tension.
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Merci, Alain ! Yes, although is that OK for a continuous waveform too, as distinct from a pulse or step change? Here, it looks very much as if we're talking about filtering chopper output sq./waves into something more like a sinewave...
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