Glossary entry (derived from question below)
Dutch term or phrase:
Maatmensen
English translation:
Representative persons
Added to glossary by
jarry (X)
Jan 10, 2006 15:08
18 yrs ago
Dutch term
maatmensen
Dutch to English
Social Sciences
Social Science, Sociology, Ethics, etc.
Om het huidige plan en het voorgenomen plan goed met elkaar te kunnen vergelijken, zijn de veranderingen doorgerekend aan de hand van z.g. maatmensen.
Proposed translations
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| 4 +3 | representative persons |
jarry (X)
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| 4 | standaard normaal individuen |
Wouter van Kampen
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| 4 -1 | control persons/groups |
Kate Hudson (X)
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| 2 | reference persons |
Harry Borsje
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Proposed translations
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representative persons
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Note added at 2 hrs 46 mins (2006-01-10 17:54:44 GMT)
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http://66.102.9.104/search?q=cache:V2i8Mux2kV0J:www.cdc.gov/...
In this project, for the first time, preliminary dose estimates for representative persons in all counties of the contiguous United States have been estimated for the most important radionuclides produced as a result of nuclear weapons testing from 1951 through 1962 by the United States and other nations.
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Note added at 2 hrs 50 mins (2006-01-10 17:58:24 GMT)
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http://www.wku.edu/~jan.garrett/320jrpfi.htm
In other words, these are principles that representative persons in the original position would have chosen to govern individuals in a real society.
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Note added at 2 hrs 51 mins (2006-01-10 18:00:04 GMT)
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The Nation, 08/25/1951 - Quakers in Moscow by Bailey, GeraldIn a crowded fortnight there was a good opportunity of sightseeing and frank conversations with representative persons on the problems of peace.
www.nationarchive.com/Summaries/v173i0008_06.htm - 23k - Cached - Similar pages
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Note added at 23 hrs 8 mins (2006-01-11 14:17:08 GMT)
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The third reference is not valid. Please ignore it.
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Note added at 2 hrs 46 mins (2006-01-10 17:54:44 GMT)
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http://66.102.9.104/search?q=cache:V2i8Mux2kV0J:www.cdc.gov/...
In this project, for the first time, preliminary dose estimates for representative persons in all counties of the contiguous United States have been estimated for the most important radionuclides produced as a result of nuclear weapons testing from 1951 through 1962 by the United States and other nations.
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Note added at 2 hrs 50 mins (2006-01-10 17:58:24 GMT)
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http://www.wku.edu/~jan.garrett/320jrpfi.htm
In other words, these are principles that representative persons in the original position would have chosen to govern individuals in a real society.
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Note added at 2 hrs 51 mins (2006-01-10 18:00:04 GMT)
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The Nation, 08/25/1951 - Quakers in Moscow by Bailey, GeraldIn a crowded fortnight there was a good opportunity of sightseeing and frank conversations with representative persons on the problems of peace.
www.nationarchive.com/Summaries/v173i0008_06.htm - 23k - Cached - Similar pages
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Note added at 23 hrs 8 mins (2006-01-11 14:17:08 GMT)
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The third reference is not valid. Please ignore it.
Peer comment(s):
| agree |
Dave Calderhead
1 hr
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Thank you
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| agree |
Wouter van Kampen
: I do not agree with quote nr. 3. Representative persons in the context of this quote are persons that represent interest groups or entities of power.// IMHO however, this English term does not completely cover the term "maatmensen".
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You are quite right. The other two are valid references, however.
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| agree |
Deborah do Carmo
: Grading should relate to the answer, which is correct.
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Phew. Thanks Debbie, saved by the gong.
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4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer.
Comment: "Thank you veyr much"
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Harry Borsje
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reference persons
maybe, or standard / standardised persons? Maybe even humans or subjects, depending on context.
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Wouter van Kampen
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standaard normaal individuen
Ze hebben een standaard mens gedefineerd op basis van de standaard normaal verdeling van de voor de meetsituatie relevante eigenschappen van het menselijk lichaam.
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Note added at 3 hrs 58 mins (2006-01-10 19:06:42 GMT)
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oh ... I should have given the answer in English, I see. Just adapt Jarry's suggestion a little bit and you'll be spot on.
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Note added at 3 hrs 58 mins (2006-01-10 19:06:42 GMT)
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oh ... I should have given the answer in English, I see. Just adapt Jarry's suggestion a little bit and you'll be spot on.
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control persons/groups
This is the term I usually encounter in my university work
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Note added at 7 hrs 20 mins (2006-01-10 22:29:08 GMT)
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In the like of your note - I would opt for notional standard persons (i.e people who fit a standard (not real persons as no one is standard)
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Note added at 7 hrs 20 mins (2006-01-10 22:29:08 GMT)
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In the like of your note - I would opt for notional standard persons (i.e people who fit a standard (not real persons as no one is standard)
Peer comment(s):
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Wouter van Kampen
: control persons (members of a control group) are real persons. A "maatmens" is not, it's a mathematical model with standard features defined as mean averages of the population that the "maatmens" represents.
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