Glossary entry (derived from question below)
Dutch term or phrase:
zwartschrift
English translation:
inkprint / print / normal print
Added to glossary by
Chris Hopley
Sep 22, 2016 12:07
8 yrs ago
Dutch term
zwartschrift
Dutch to English
Other
Other
writing systems
Zwartschrift is what blind people call regular writing as opposed to Braille.
Cf.: Als men over brailleschrift (ook braille of blindenschrift genoemd) spreekt, dan moet men ook een naam geven aan het gewone schrift die ziende personen gebruiken. Dan spreekt men over zwartschrift, om het even of het Duits of Japans is. Het speelt ook geen rol of het wel degelijk in zwarte of in rode kleur geschreven wordt.
Source: http://www.braillepost.be/nl/?Braille:Zwartschrift
Does anyone know of an equivalent term in English? Thanks in advance.
Cf.: Als men over brailleschrift (ook braille of blindenschrift genoemd) spreekt, dan moet men ook een naam geven aan het gewone schrift die ziende personen gebruiken. Dan spreekt men over zwartschrift, om het even of het Duits of Japans is. Het speelt ook geen rol of het wel degelijk in zwarte of in rode kleur geschreven wordt.
Source: http://www.braillepost.be/nl/?Braille:Zwartschrift
Does anyone know of an equivalent term in English? Thanks in advance.
Proposed translations
(English)
3 +4 | inkprint / ink print | sindy cremer |
3 | printed text | Michael Beijer |
2 | non-tactile text | Richard Purdom |
References
refs | Michael Beijer |
Proposed translations
+4
5 hrs
Selected
inkprint / ink print
Not too sure, but have a look here, Chris: http://tinyurl.com/jszc8tp
A few examples:
"Braille-translation software (or embedded hardware) converts inkprint into braille or braille into inkprint."
"Blind users tend to call other printers "ink printers," to distinguish them from their braille counterparts." => https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Braille_embosser
"In braille there is also a series of composition signs, such as capital and number signs, that have no inkprint counterparts."
http://tinyurl.com/z8sfrgr "Okay - so you've still got enough vision to read ink-print (...)"
A few examples:
"Braille-translation software (or embedded hardware) converts inkprint into braille or braille into inkprint."
"Blind users tend to call other printers "ink printers," to distinguish them from their braille counterparts." => https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Braille_embosser
"In braille there is also a series of composition signs, such as capital and number signs, that have no inkprint counterparts."
http://tinyurl.com/z8sfrgr "Okay - so you've still got enough vision to read ink-print (...)"
Note from asker:
Thanks, Cindy. This does seem very convincing! |
Peer comment(s):
agree |
Michael Beijer
: I did a bit of googling, and "ink print" seems to be correct and used in specialist literature. / mooie zin Barend ("Ik was er niet van overtuigd dat die term er niet zou zijn.") ;-)
2 hrs
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agree |
Barend van Zadelhoff
: Mooi dat je die term boven water hebt gehaald. Ik was er niet van overtuigd dat die term er niet zou zijn. Goed werk.
19 hrs
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agree |
freekfluweel
: Nice find!
1 day 4 hrs
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agree |
Kitty Brussaard
3 days 3 hrs
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4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer.
Comment: "Thanks Cindy"
24 mins
printed text
regular/normal print also seem fine.
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"A collection of children's books with both braille and printed text tours of our libraries." (http://www.croydonlibraries.com/library-services/books-and-r... )
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Note added at 26 mins (2016-09-22 12:34:04 GMT)
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"Each key on the pad has both Braille and printed text labels designed to indicate function and a related shape to help the voter determine its use." (https://www.verifiedvoting.org/resources/voting-equipment/es... )
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Note added at 27 mins (2016-09-22 12:35:24 GMT)
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"Thermoforming (vacuum forming) is the process of generating a tactile document from pre-tooled dyes. A large metal dye is molded into the shape of the document, which can include both Braille and printed text, line graphics and multi-tiered graphics." (https://www-users.cs.york.ac.uk/~cpower/pubs/2010UAISPowerJu... )
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Note added at 57 mins (2016-09-22 13:04:59 GMT)
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"Wetenswaardigheden[bewerken]
Het tegengestelde van braille - een gedrukte of geschreven tekst die voor ziende mensen leesbaar is - wordt door blinden "zwartschrift" of "zwartdruk" genoemd." (https://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Braille )
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"Although it is possible to transcribe print by simply substituting the equivalent braille character for its printed equivalent, in English such a character-by-character transcription (known as uncontracted braille) is only used by beginners.
Braille characters are much larger than their printed equivalents, and the standard 11" by 11.5" (28 cm × 30 cm) page has room for only 25 lines of 43 characters.
[...]
Since the various braille alphabets originated as transcription codes of printed writing systems, the mappings (sets of character designations) vary from language to language.
[...]
The lines of horizontal braille text are separated by a space, much like visible printed text, so that the dots of one line can be differentiated from the braille text above and below. Different assignments of braille codes (or code pages) are used to map the character sets of different printed scripts to the six-bit cells."
(https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Braille )
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Note added at 2 hrs (2016-09-22 14:56:08 GMT)
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a few refs, all from 100% reputable, well written ENG sources, showing that it is also just referred to as "print":
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"Abstract
This study compared a number of outcomes for congenitally legally blind adults who learned to read braille or print as their original reading medium. It was found that those who learned to read using braille had higher employment rates and educational levels, were more financially self-sufficient, and spent more time reading than did those who learned to read using print." (http://mountbattenbrailler.com/Docs/papers/Ryles_study.pdf )
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"What is Dual Media?
Dual Media refers to the use of both print and braille simultaneously as modes for reading and writing.
In some cases, print and braille are both taught from the beginning, while in other cases print readers are taught braille later in their educational careers.
How should a decision be made whether to use print or braille or both?" (http://www.pathstoliteracy.org/dual-media )
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"What about large print?
Large print is useful for people with low vision, whereas braille is essential for people with little or no vision. We produce large print documents using 18- to 24-point fonts and can emboss the same text in braille, right over the print, so that both remain readable. In this way, you can serve more visually-impaired people." (https://www.nbp.org/ic/nbp/business/faq.html )
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"FROM BRAILLE TO PRINT: THE STORY OF FUAZ
For educational purposes, individuals who are blind are so severely impaired
they must learn to read Braille or use aural methods. Educators often refer to
those individuals who can read print, even if they need magnifying devices or
largeprint books, as having low vision. (page 341)
From my experience of teaching students with visual impairment in two secondary
schools in Malaysia, and from my visits to schools during practicum supervision, I
have observed that a significant number of students using Braille seem to have
sufficient vision to read print. "
(http://icevi.org/publications/icevi_wc2006/03 access _to_ l... )
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Note added at 25 mins (2016-09-22 12:33:25 GMT)
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"A collection of children's books with both braille and printed text tours of our libraries." (http://www.croydonlibraries.com/library-services/books-and-r... )
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Note added at 26 mins (2016-09-22 12:34:04 GMT)
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"Each key on the pad has both Braille and printed text labels designed to indicate function and a related shape to help the voter determine its use." (https://www.verifiedvoting.org/resources/voting-equipment/es... )
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Note added at 27 mins (2016-09-22 12:35:24 GMT)
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"Thermoforming (vacuum forming) is the process of generating a tactile document from pre-tooled dyes. A large metal dye is molded into the shape of the document, which can include both Braille and printed text, line graphics and multi-tiered graphics." (https://www-users.cs.york.ac.uk/~cpower/pubs/2010UAISPowerJu... )
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Note added at 57 mins (2016-09-22 13:04:59 GMT)
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"Wetenswaardigheden[bewerken]
Het tegengestelde van braille - een gedrukte of geschreven tekst die voor ziende mensen leesbaar is - wordt door blinden "zwartschrift" of "zwartdruk" genoemd." (https://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Braille )
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"Although it is possible to transcribe print by simply substituting the equivalent braille character for its printed equivalent, in English such a character-by-character transcription (known as uncontracted braille) is only used by beginners.
Braille characters are much larger than their printed equivalents, and the standard 11" by 11.5" (28 cm × 30 cm) page has room for only 25 lines of 43 characters.
[...]
Since the various braille alphabets originated as transcription codes of printed writing systems, the mappings (sets of character designations) vary from language to language.
[...]
The lines of horizontal braille text are separated by a space, much like visible printed text, so that the dots of one line can be differentiated from the braille text above and below. Different assignments of braille codes (or code pages) are used to map the character sets of different printed scripts to the six-bit cells."
(https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Braille )
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Note added at 2 hrs (2016-09-22 14:56:08 GMT)
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a few refs, all from 100% reputable, well written ENG sources, showing that it is also just referred to as "print":
*****************************
"Abstract
This study compared a number of outcomes for congenitally legally blind adults who learned to read braille or print as their original reading medium. It was found that those who learned to read using braille had higher employment rates and educational levels, were more financially self-sufficient, and spent more time reading than did those who learned to read using print." (http://mountbattenbrailler.com/Docs/papers/Ryles_study.pdf )
*****************************
"What is Dual Media?
Dual Media refers to the use of both print and braille simultaneously as modes for reading and writing.
In some cases, print and braille are both taught from the beginning, while in other cases print readers are taught braille later in their educational careers.
How should a decision be made whether to use print or braille or both?" (http://www.pathstoliteracy.org/dual-media )
*****************************
"What about large print?
Large print is useful for people with low vision, whereas braille is essential for people with little or no vision. We produce large print documents using 18- to 24-point fonts and can emboss the same text in braille, right over the print, so that both remain readable. In this way, you can serve more visually-impaired people." (https://www.nbp.org/ic/nbp/business/faq.html )
*****************************
"FROM BRAILLE TO PRINT: THE STORY OF FUAZ
For educational purposes, individuals who are blind are so severely impaired
they must learn to read Braille or use aural methods. Educators often refer to
those individuals who can read print, even if they need magnifying devices or
largeprint books, as having low vision. (page 341)
From my experience of teaching students with visual impairment in two secondary
schools in Malaysia, and from my visits to schools during practicum supervision, I
have observed that a significant number of students using Braille seem to have
sufficient vision to read print. "
(http://icevi.org/publications/icevi_wc2006/03 access _to_ l... )
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Peer comment(s):
disagree |
freekfluweel
: Braille is also printed... http://tinyurl.com/h2dg9zw / Please read... and read... and read the original question again, again and again...!!!
1 hr
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I think most people will know what you're talking about if you say "braille or printed text". Also, 99% of people, when seeing the phrase "printed text", will not be thinking of braille. / No need to reread the question three times. I speak English.
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agree |
Kitty Brussaard
: IMHO this is a well-researched/well-substantiated answer which doesn't deserve a disagree.
3 days 8 hrs
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Thanks Kitty!
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3 hrs
non-tactile text
for want of anything better!
Reference comments
22 mins
Reference:
refs
from Google:
"(3) Booklet with activities to be carried out with the half-sphere and the tactile moon (in braille and normal print). (4) 30 sets of "From Earth to the Universe ..."
"Computer trainer Devyani P states, "We had nobody to emulate and had to start from cratch. We researched a lot to produce material in braille and normal print."
"Finally, I came out with a new typography that can be seen as a point of intersection between braille and normal print. This alphabet offers the opportunity for ..."
"braille and normal print. Ice Palace - Swindells, Robert; "
"that can be seen as a point of intersection between braille and normal print”, where Latin and Braille letters are designed on the same grid"
"new typography that can be seen as an intersection between braille and normal print,” as a way to prepare the elderly for reading braille type"
"(3) Booklet with activities to be carried out with the half-sphere and the tactile moon (in braille and normal print). (4) 30 sets of "From Earth to the Universe ..."
"Computer trainer Devyani P states, "We had nobody to emulate and had to start from cratch. We researched a lot to produce material in braille and normal print."
"Finally, I came out with a new typography that can be seen as a point of intersection between braille and normal print. This alphabet offers the opportunity for ..."
"braille and normal print. Ice Palace - Swindells, Robert; "
"that can be seen as a point of intersection between braille and normal print”, where Latin and Braille letters are designed on the same grid"
"new typography that can be seen as an intersection between braille and normal print,” as a way to prepare the elderly for reading braille type"
Discussion
Miguel
and what does it really matter...? Don't you have sth better to do with your time?
You think Dutch, however native English you might be...!!!
.
normal print
regular print
printed text
print
non-tactile text
ink print / inkprint / ink-print
etc.
all perfectly acceptable, correct, English translations of the Dutch term "zwartschrift"
Don't you have sth better to do with your time?
http://tinyurl.com/zlqe2py
regular print: 569 Ghits
http://tinyurl.com/jovlxue
And if you wear a 'normale pasvorm' in the NL, ain't no use looking for 'normal fit' in English speaking countries...
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btw, why do you use "google.nl" for English queries?
https://www.google.com/search?q="braille and normal print" &... … About 178 results (0.27 seconds)
https://www.google.com/search?q="braille and regular print"&... … About 1,350 results (0.56 seconds)
http://tinyurl.com/jtf6bha
regular print: 1290 Ghits
http://tinyurl.com/jhxnckg
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Very interesting question indeed! So far it seems that the Dutch are the only one to have a nickname for 'regular print'...