Glossary entry (derived from question below)
Italian term or phrase:
Colonna rudentata
English translation:
cabled flute column // column with cable fluting
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martini
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Italian term
Colonna rudentata
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Architecture
What's the meaning of "colonna rudentata"?
"Nella parete sinistra della chiesa sono inseriti una colonna rudentata e un capitello di stile dorico."
Context: https://www.masseriamelcarne.com/chiesa-romanica-della-madon...
"Nella parete sinistra della chiesa sono inseriti una colonna rudentata e un capitello di stile dorico."
Context: https://www.masseriamelcarne.com/chiesa-romanica-della-madon...
Proposed translations
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| 3 +1 | cabled flute column // column with cable fluting |
martini
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| 4 | Fluted(or ribbed) column |
Tom in London
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| 4 -1 | cabled/rudented column |
philgoddard
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Jul 17, 2024 07:04: martini Created KOG entry
Proposed translations
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cabled flute column // column with cable fluting
CABLE FLUTING
a round molding frequently worked in the flutes of columns & pilasters in Classical architecture, and nearly filling up the hollow part. They seldom extend higher than the third part of the shaft.
https://columnsdirect.com/pages/glossary
rudènte
nmf archit cable, cable moulding
ornare di rudente to cable.
https://dizionari.repubblica.it/Italiano-Inglese/R/rudente.h...
cabled flute column
A column or pilaster with semicircular convex moldings in the center of the flutes, usually starting at the base of the column and stopping at one-third or one-half the column height; the moldings may be plain or ornamental
https://encyclopedia2.thefreedictionary.com/cabled flute col...
https://tspace.library.utoronto.ca/bitstream/1807/15061/1/MQ...
a round molding frequently worked in the flutes of columns & pilasters in Classical architecture, and nearly filling up the hollow part. They seldom extend higher than the third part of the shaft.
https://columnsdirect.com/pages/glossary
rudènte
nmf archit cable, cable moulding
ornare di rudente to cable.
https://dizionari.repubblica.it/Italiano-Inglese/R/rudente.h...
cabled flute column
A column or pilaster with semicircular convex moldings in the center of the flutes, usually starting at the base of the column and stopping at one-third or one-half the column height; the moldings may be plain or ornamental
https://encyclopedia2.thefreedictionary.com/cabled flute col...
https://tspace.library.utoronto.ca/bitstream/1807/15061/1/MQ...
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Fluted(or ribbed) column
https://tinyurl.com/22jewg4d
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Note added at 36 mins (2024-07-15 18:18:45 GMT)
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Buried in the wall
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Note added at 36 mins (2024-07-15 18:18:45 GMT)
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Buried in the wall
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liz askew
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philgoddard
: Your reference is English, so it doesn't prove anything. Ribbed is 'costolata'.
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cabled/rudented column
Cabled or rudented columns...have their flutings filled with cables or astragals to about a third of their height.
http://www.catholic.com/encyclopedia/column
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Astragal
So Tom is right that it's fluted, but it's a particular kind of fluting. I'd avoid 'rudented', as readers won't know what it means, and add a few words of explanation.
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Note added at 1 hr (2024-07-15 19:04:01 GMT)
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As the paragraph before the one I've cited above shows, the architectural term for a column like this is 'attached' or 'engaged'. But I'd go for the plain-English 'projecting from the wall'.
http://www.catholic.com/encyclopedia/column
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Astragal
So Tom is right that it's fluted, but it's a particular kind of fluting. I'd avoid 'rudented', as readers won't know what it means, and add a few words of explanation.
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Note added at 1 hr (2024-07-15 19:04:01 GMT)
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As the paragraph before the one I've cited above shows, the architectural term for a column like this is 'attached' or 'engaged'. But I'd go for the plain-English 'projecting from the wall'.
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Tom in London
: From the photograph, there is no evidence that the flutings of this column are filled with anything at all. Furthermore, the column is very worn away and only the top part is visible.
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If you mean the fifth photograph, the cabling will be at the bottom of the column, which is not shown in the picture. So how do you know there is none?
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