May 13, 2004 11:29
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RHELLER May 13, 2004:
Please give some details about this product, thanks.

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feeling sick = experiencing a feeling of unwellness; being sick = in an unwell state

If you feel sick, you may not necessarily BE sick, but you are experiencing some feeling of unwellness (such as a headache). To BE sick means that you are unwell, no question about it, and this has a cause such as a virus or bacteria.

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So basically, feeling sick may or may not mean that you are in fact sick. You might have a feeling of sickness that is entirely non-pathological, in other words, not caused by any virus or bacteria. For instance, you might feel nauseous after seeing something very unpleasant. But this sort of feeling will frequently pass quite quickly. If you ARE sick on the other hand, you will experience certain symptoms depending on the exact illness, and there will be a definite pathological cause.

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Being sick can mean to vomit, but it can also mean to be unwell generally. For instance, if you\'re at home in bed with a cold, you might ring the office and say \"I\'m sick today\".

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Feel sick can also mean to feel nauseous (like you\'re going to throw up), as others have said.
Peer comment(s):

agree Elena Sgarbo (X) : Well explained :-)
15 mins
Thanks Elena.
agree MJ Barber
38 mins
Thanks MJ.
agree Michele Johnson : I find this the authoritative, comprehensive answer.
54 mins
Thank you kindly, Michele.
agree Melanie Nassar : definitely, in US usage, at least. *sick* is not necessarily nauseous.
1 hr
No, not necessarily. Thanks armaat.
agree Penelope Ausejo
1 hr
Thanks pepis.
agree hookmv
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Thanks Veronica.
agree danya
1 hr
Thanks Danya.
agree RHELLER : the feeling can pass momentarily; if one IS (really) sick, one must see a doctor and (usually) receive treatment :-)
1 hr
Quite right - thanks Rita.
agree Mathew Robinson
2 hrs
Thanks TechTrans.
agree Java Cafe
2 hrs
Thanks Java Cafe.
neutral Refugio : Ordinarily, you would be right about these meanings, but in the context where they are contrasted, it is clearly much more specific and should be considered a primary answer, not an afterthought.
2 hrs
I have mentioned the vomiting one alluded to by others, if that specific meaning is indeed intended. But I am not satisfied that the context is specific enough to rule out general illness, so feel all my explanations apply currently.
agree Kristina Thorne
5 hrs
Thanks Kristina.
agree Liesbeth Huijer
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Thanks Liesbeth.
agree Iolanta Vlaykova Paneva
2 days 7 hrs
Thanks Yolanta.
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4 mins

answer below

Feeling sick = having the feeling that you might be going to vomit

Being sick = actually vomitting
Peer comment(s):

agree Ruxi : yes, in US. It also means not feeling well. Being sick also means having a disease.
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agree Spiros Doikas
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agree Vicky Papaprodromou
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agree Alfa Trans (X)
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neutral RHELLER : how did vomiting come up here?
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agree Refugio
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agree Kristina Thorne
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agree Charlie Bavington : oops, just seen, you had the same as Dee and nothing - well, you get an agree as well, then - all timed at 4 minutes - what's a bloke to do....:-) !!
7 hrs
agree Kim Metzger : As an American, I associate "feeling sick" with nausea, too.
9 hrs
agree chica nueva : sick = 1 feeling ill as if you are going to vomit eg Lucy felt sick the morning after the party.2 be sick = to vomit eg She was sick after she ate too much chocolate (Cambridge Advanced Learner's Dictionary)
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agree ben baudoin
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4 mins

nausea/nauseous vs vomiting

That´s all there is to it ... very basic register though!
Peer comment(s):

agree Refugio : Yes, they are well known euphemisms for nausea and vomiting
2 hrs
Thanks Ruth!!!
neutral RHELLER : a different point of view does not merit insults
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agree Kristina Thorne
5 hrs
Thank you Kristina!
agree Charlie Bavington : not sure whether you or nothing was first, but this is the basic distinction as I understand it (British Eng)
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agree Orla Ryan
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I think Rita is being confused by a slight difference between US and British English...

In BE, the primary meaning of "sick" is connected with nausea and vomiting - "I feel sick" = "I feel as if I'm about to vomit" (travel *sickness*, sea *sickness* etc), "The baby has just been sick" = vomited, "I'll clear up the sick" = I'll clear up the baby's vomit etc etc.

We do use the term "sick note" for a doctor's certification that you're not fit to go to work, and we "throw a sickie" = "take a day off work pretending to be ill" - but we're much more likely to say "You look ill/unwell/poorly" etc if we mean "sufering from an indisposition that doesn't involve vomiting!

So, if a BE speaker has e.g. flu, a cold, headache etc. he'd say "I don't feel well" or "I feel ill/rotten/terrible" etc - not "I feel sick"
HTH
Peer comment(s):

agree RHELLER : thanks John. I feel that the Eng-Eng section owes non-native speakers a COMPLETE explanation; especially because little context is given. Who knows how they will be applying it?
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neutral Refugio : That same meaning for sick is very common and completely understood by native English speakers in the United States. So the question still remains about just what it was that confused some prozers.
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4 mins

see exp

Feeling sick is when you have a sensation of nausea. Being sick is to actually vomit

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I agree with Dee\'s reply to Rita. It\'s the same in England. If we were talking about headaches and heartaches, we would say \"feeling ill/being ill\", although we \"phone sick\" when we cannot go to work because of illness and are \"off sick\" if we are not at work for that reason

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I was thinking that you should check where the drug was made but, it just came to my mind that there are not cure-alls, so your medicine must be an emetic

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Note added at 2 hrs 55 mins (2004-05-13 14:25:14 GMT)
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sorry an anti-emetic
Peer comment(s):

agree IrinaGM
14 mins
Thank you, Irina
neutral RHELLER : I am at a loss as to why sick is being equated to nausea here
1 hr
neutral Java Cafe : Perhaps because of the euphemistic use of "air sickness bags". :-)
2 hrs
I think it probably started a lot earlier than that, more likely to come from sea sickness
agree Hermeneutica : Thanks for the agree! I think Rita may not be very familiar with the kind of statements generally found in drug inserts.
2 hrs
Cheers, Dee
agree Refugio
5 hrs
agree Charlie Bavington : not sure if you or Dee was first, but from my Brit Eng understanding, this is the simple difference between them.
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2 hrs

agreed with Rowan

WEBSTER'S
sick: a)affected with disease; not well or healthy; ill, ailing, indisposed;
b)affected with or attended by nausea

I am adding this because I feel it is the obligation of native speakers to give a complete explanation, rather than just part of an explanation









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In the U.S. we use the expression \"feel sick\" when we have not yet been diagnosed with something specific. If we knew we had the flu, for example, we could say \"I am sick\".

I feel ill
I am not feeling well today

If someone were suddenly overcome by palpitations and a general sense of fatigue, they could say \"I feel sick\". This has NOTHING to do with nausea.
Peer comment(s):

neutral Refugio : Precision in usage, and discernment in the use of the vernacular, are the obligation of native speakers, not a shotgun blitz of all possible answers including those extraneous to the specific context.
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what context? that this is a medicinal product? for which purpose?
agree Ann Nosova : I am not a native speaker but i read in many books- to feel sick in the stomach(to feel nausea)
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Feeling sick = you are feeling sick (subjective), being sick = (you are actually sick)

The first describes you "feel" sick, but may be nothing wrong with you. Whereas the latter you are actually "being" sick and so diagnosed by a medical professional (doctor).

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The difference is that the first is \"subjective\" and may not be proved (or no known cause for it), as opposed to the latter \"objective\" and so proved. If I was his/her doctor, I just send home without treatment or prescribing any drug (or might give a placebo -- if permissible). Whereas if he/she \"being sick\" I must give all necessary treatments, including prescription of medications.

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Note added at 2004-05-13 19:16:37 (GMT)
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Whether it is American English or British, I do not think \"sick\"ness is restricted to nausea. Its contexual spectrum is broader than that. However I agree with Rita, more context must be given before we can determine if the issue is about nausea alone.
Peer comment(s):

neutral Charlie Bavington : interesting answer - however in the context of a medical leaflet, I suspect the difference is, as others have explained, between a feeling of nausea and actually physically chucking up :-)
11 mins
Thanks Charlie, read on.
agree Rowan Morrell : With your added notes in particular.
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2 meanings of sick = 1 ill (adj?) 2 vomit (verb?). In this case, it is 2.

1 sick (ill) = physically or mentally ill; not well or healthy eg He's off/away sick today. On sick leave. a sick child

2 sick (vomit) = 1 feeling ill as if you are going to vomit eg Lucy felt sick. 2 be sick = to vomit eg She was sick after she ate too much chocolate.

If you are feeling unwell, not 100%, then you say 'I'm not feeling very well/I don't feel too good'. If you are feeling queasy and nauseous, then you say 'I feel sick/I feel like throwing up/I think I'm going to be sick'...
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