Oct 26, 2022 14:39
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Spanish term

Sala de peines

Spanish to English Social Sciences Art, Arts & Crafts, Painting Museums
SPAIN. Apparently this term is used to describe the place in museums where artworks are stored when not on display. I've been asked to find out if there is a specific term for this other than simply "store/storage".

Here are a couple of examples of usage (although not from the text I'm working on, which doesn't have any).

"Sala de peines: almacenamiento de pintura (bandas correderas que albergan los cuadros en vertical)."

"Afortunadamente, a lo largo de nuestra investigación, hemos podido comprobar que dicho relieve se conserva en la ***sala de peines*** del Museo de la Real Academia de Bellas Artes de San Fernando."
Proposed translations (English)
4 +1 art rack storage (y otras)
3 storage racks room

Discussion

MPGS Oct 27, 2022:
@Neil Thank you
Helena Chavarria Oct 27, 2022:
@Neil FWIW, I would give the points to O G V as they took the time to find references. I've often lost out on the points because I spent time preparing a helpful answer.
neilmac (asker) Oct 27, 2022:
Actually It appears in a text I'm revising, and the authors had translated it as "comb room". As it happens, for the purposes of the text I'm working on, "storeroom" will suffice and there is no need to go into further detail. Now, I just wish I could split the kudoz points, because although MPGS got in there first, OGV supplied a lot of explanatory links....
ormiston Oct 26, 2022:
Repository Is what I've seen for stored artworks
O G V Oct 26, 2022:
@Toni busqué tb "sala de ..." pero cuando empecé a ver que aludían a peines sin más me di cuenta de que es un término frecuente en estos contextos
muy probable que tenga origen en el teatro como señalas o al menos esté relacionado
Toni Castano Oct 26, 2022:
@Óscar Gracias por tus aportaciones, muy enriquecedoras. You live and learn, so true.
Feliz tarde.
O G V Oct 26, 2022:
otros enlaces y tb han preguntado en https://forum.wordreference.com/threads/peines-de-museo.3780...
proponen vault y "sliding screens"

FONDOS DEL MUSEO | España - El Mundohttps://www.elmundo.es › viajes › espana › 2019/02/02
1 feb 2019 — ... (1857) de German Hernandez , que duerme en los peines del depósito del museo sin ser mostrado al público por cuestiones de espacio.

Museo del Prado: El Prado que no se ve - RTVE.eshttps://www.rtve.es › Play › Telediario 1

https://www.madridiario.es/album/8350/un-museo-universal/19/...
https://www.elespanol.com/el-cultural/arte/20210518/tesoro-a...
https://salamancartvaldia.es/noticia/2022-05-25-los-secretos...
https://museo.unav.edu/el-museo/transparencia/actos-de-dispo...
https://www.museofigari.gub.uy/innovaportal/v/46783/20/mecwe... (muy detallada)
https://elcorreoweb.es/cultura/un-paseo-por-lo-que-esconden-...
https://www.museodelprado.es/recurso/el-dia-a-dia-en-la-vigi...
O G V Oct 26, 2022:
no parece ser término tan infrecuente al menos en este tipo de discursos, yo tampoco lo recordaba pero aparece en textos muy diversos, técnicos o museísticos, simples noticias... peines+museo

muy buena definición en https://riull.ull.es/xmlui/bitstream/handle/915/17111/Propue...
una tesis donde se menciona 21 veces
4.4.1. Peines
‘’Es una estructura vertical metálica formada por un bastidor que contiene una retícula o malla
de varillas entrecruzadas y soldadas entre sí y al bastidor’’18
.
https://contrataciondelestado.es/wps/wcm/connect/5fb701d5-26...

https://www.timeout.es/madrid/es/arte/descubriendo-el-almace...
https://www.zubiaurcarreno.com/curso-de-museologia/capitulo-...
https://antonioazorin.com/product/real-academia-de-bellas-ar...
Toni Castano Oct 26, 2022:
@Neil I had never heard this term before. Although the RAE dictionary does not provide an explanation about the origin of the term in this particular context, I understand it must have been used in the theater world first prior to being adopted as a (very rare, I believe) term of art in Spanish museums.
“Sala de peines” displays just 18 meagre hits in a Google search, which speaks for itself.
https://dle.rae.es/peine
PEINE
8. m. Teatro.
Enrejado con poleas situado en el telar de los escenarios, de donde se cuelgan las decoraciones.

Proposed translations

+1
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Selected

art rack storage (y otras)

Se trata de un nombre tradicional para la sala en que se almacenan los cuadros que no se exponen.
Van en vertical, apilados según se ve en
http://www.equiro.com/es/archivo-vertical-para-obras-de-arte...
noticia
https://www.elperiodic.com/valencia/museo-bellas-artes-valen...
investigación en la que se dice simplemente los peines de…
https://www.unizar.es/artigrama/pdf/24/3varia/06.pdf

aparte de art track que parece ser el tecnicismo equivalente
se encuentra
vertical storage/ museum storage shelving (racks)

alusión a vertical storage en museos en inglés
https://www.nps.gov/museum/publications/mhi/chap7.pdf

En https://spacesaver.ca/museum-storage-shelving/
Usan un término que parece más técnico
MUSEUM STORAGE SHELVING
Our art rack museum storage shelving systems offer a versatile and secure way to store fine art collections, with special consideration to two-dimensional works.
Racks can either be hung from the ceiling or integrated into a museum’s existing floor. Store double the amount of art by hanging pieces on both sides of the rack.

https://www.southwestsolutions.com/equipment/best-solutions-...
See Art Storage Shelving, Racks, & Cabinets Prices



empresa con varios modelos https://modernofficesystems.com/art-racks-art-storage/
Los que recuerdan más los peines son
LATERAL ART RACK STORAGE SYSTEMS
PULL-OUT ART RACK STORAGE SYSTEMS



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21 may 2017 — Pictures and information about "peines" (in Spanish): ... Ceiling-mounted hand-controlled manual art rack system

Pin on mobiliario museos - Pinteresthttps://www.pinterest.com › Explore › Architecture
Aquí tenéis una foto de los peines donde se guardan las obras #BehindTheArt” ... Art Storage: Mobile Art Rack System: Painting Storage | Patterson.

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Hang-Glider Pro, ceiling suspended Ceiling suspended mobile art rack systems at Witte ... Peines donde se guardan las obras Paper Storage, Office Storage,.


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Note from asker:
I know what they are -my mother was a librarian in a museum and I once had a look inside- but I didn't know what they were called. Thanks for all the links.
Peer comment(s):

agree Helena Chavarria
1 day 3 hrs
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4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer. Comment: "Thanks to everyone who contributed on this query. I really appreciate the help :-)"
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storage racks room

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Reference comments

3 hrs
Reference:

Helpful picture racking guide

TOP SUPPORTED PICTURE RACKING
This is the most common type of picture racking system and is usually the most cost effective.

The pull out mesh panels are supported from above by a steel mainframe designed to offer support independently of the room in which it is built. The only structural constraint with this type of picture storage is the point loading for the legs; there must be sufficient structural support in the floor to withstand the loads on each leg.

FLOOR SUPPORTED PICTURE RACKING
This type of art racking is recommended when adequate floor point loading is not possible and an evenly distributed load is required, here our helpful picture racking guide tells you more.

This type of picture racking is common when the art storage installation is not on a ground or basement floor, where the floor is weak or where the structural integrity of the floor cannot be properly ascertained.

https://ampfab.co.uk/helpful-picture-racking-guide/
Note from asker:
Thanks for sharing, helpful as ever :-)
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Reference:

oropels room

Esa palabra Peine, sinónimo de oropel (imitación de oro) es mui rara: oropel are made of metallic league similar to gold.
Peines room is correct, although I found better ‘oropels room’, better than 'tinsels room'
oropel (latón): oropel
imitation gold leaf - https://de.pons.com/übersetzung/spanisch-englisch/oropel
It seems peine it’s an English word (neologism):
 Bene's Jewels- https://benesjewels.com/en/plata-y-oro/46-colgante-peine-pla...
PEINE SILVER AND GOLD PENDANT WITH PATINA - https://benesjewels.com/en/plata-y-oro/46-colgante-peine-pla...
Oro amarillo de 14 K peine colgante : The World Jewelry Center: - https://www.amazon.com/-/es/Oro-amarillo-14-K-peine-colgante...
Note from asker:
Pensaba que el nombre vendría como su aspecto parecido a un peine. No pasa nada, al final me basta con "storeroom", sin darle más vueltas. Gracias y un saludo :-)
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