Mar 30, 2022 15:27
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"with"

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What do you exactly understand in the sentence below:

Duration: 1 year, with Co-Op 2 years

1 year education + 1 year Co-Op = 2 years

or

1 year education + 2 years Co-Op = 3 years

Thanks in advance for your kind help.
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Discussion

DehaCeviri (asker) Mar 31, 2022:
Hi,

The client has just clarified it with an explanation that "Duration: 1 year, with Co-Op 2 years" is meant to refer to a total term of one year for education and one year for apprenticeship at a company they will find, so it makes up two years in total.

Thanks and best regards
Derya
Yvonne Gallagher Mar 31, 2022:
@ Asker This question should have been closed as "answer found elsewhere". Several of us natives weren't sure so hesitated to post an answer. And yes, it was necessary to ask the client. With the context added it is easier to see what it means: if you work P/T AND study P/T then it will take 2 years but if you don't work but follow the course F/T then you will finish in 1 year.
philgoddard Mar 30, 2022:
Thanks!
DehaCeviri (asker) Mar 30, 2022:
Philgoddard, thanks for your kind warning. I will do the needful. And as for Co-Op, it is a system where a student can study and work.
philgoddard Mar 30, 2022:
Also You've closed a lot of questions without awarding points or saying thank you, which will make people reluctant to help.

What is co-op, by the way?
AllegroTrans Mar 30, 2022:
I don't think this can be solved by simply looking at the wording. I suggest you ask the client for clarification.
Yvonne Gallagher Mar 30, 2022:
Probably 2 years total but not sure
DehaCeviri (asker) Mar 30, 2022:
This is a diploma program for a certain subject to be studied at the college. The duration is 1 year, with Co-Op 2 years. Is it meant that a student will get a program for one year, and he/she will receive a Co-Op opportunity either for one year or two years? The context here is really unclear. He/she may have the college education for one year and Co-Op for two years, so it makes up a total term of 3 years whenever "with" used therein may mean an addition rather than an inclusion.
Yvonne Gallagher Mar 30, 2022:
@ Asker Have you no other context to clarify it? Yes it is ambiguous.
Oliver Simões Mar 30, 2022:
Deha Translation, Whatever they are talking about: 1 year. If Co-Op is the choice: 2 years. It's hard to guess unless you provide us with more context. What is this all about? What is the "1 year" referring to?

Responses

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1 year, with Co-Op 2 years

:) I think it means that. The option with Co-Op adds one year to the course
Peer comment(s):

agree Arabic & More : Yes, it seems like the total duration becomes a total of two years.
6 mins
thanks
neutral AllegroTrans : "You think" but you have not supported this with any evidence or reference // this site strongly recommends that you do so, please read the guidelines
2 hrs
we are not required to do that, thanks
agree ATIL KAYHAN : I believe this is the meaning intended here. It would be better said like this, "1 year, with Co-op it is 2 years."
3 hrs
you got it, thanks
neutral Daryo : whatever site rules say, "I think" is NOT a good method for translating. At a stretch "I know for sure" could be OK, if you really do know and haven't got the time to go into detailed explanations, but "I think" is simply just another name for *guessing*!
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4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer. Comment: "The client has just verified my understanding as one year for education + one year for Co-Op, which makes up a total term of two years. (For me, however, the expression still seems to be unclear)"

Reference comments

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Reference:

About possible Co-Op or Co-Ops

Co-op" usually refers to a multi-work term agreement with one employer; traditionally with at least three work terms alternated with school terms, resulting in a five-year degree program for what would otherwise take four years. Co-ops are traditionally full-time, paid positions.
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https:/...
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https:/...
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https:/...


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Note added at 3 ώρες (2022-03-30 19:26:00 GMT) Post-grading
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There're also Co-Op students in Canada
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https:/...

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Note added at 4 ώρες (2022-03-30 19:28:56 GMT) Post-grading
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You're most welcome.
Note from asker:
Thank you for your comprehensive research :-)
Peer comments on this reference comment:

agree philgoddard : New to me!
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