Glossary entry

Italian term or phrase:

rotture in catasta

English translation:

breakage on the rack

Added to glossary by Barbara L Pavlik
Dec 1, 2021 14:11
2 yrs ago
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Italian term

rotture in catasta

Italian to English Tech/Engineering Food & Drink Bottling & Bottles
This is a heading in a list of defects in glass bottles. The full text is:

"Rotture in catasta (presa di spuma) - Le rotture nei cestoni potranno al massimo essere pari a X‰"

Since "presa di spuma" refers to 'second fermentation' a.k.a. 'bottle fermentation', a process that takes place in the bottle over a period of years, it seems that this refers to breakages that occur while the full bottles are stacked up and in storage. I just don't know if there is an 'official' term for this type of breakage. I'm guessing that "cestoni" aren't literally baskets or hampers but some sort of box or crate that the bottles are stacked in. Still trying to find that as well. Thanks for your help.
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Discussion

Barbara L Pavlik (asker) Dec 1, 2021:
Reference Yes, Charlotte, you are right! I just found this:

"Nel caso del remuage meccanico le bottiglie vengono invece disposte orizzontalmente in appositi cestoni metallici o legnosi, i quali vengono poi installati su un piedistallo girevole chiamato gyropalette. Esso attua dei movimenti programmati, ruotando e inclinando sempre più il cestone, in modo da modificare progressivamente la posizione delle bottiglie da orizzontale a verticale (sempre col tappo rivolto verso il basso). Il remuage meccanico ha una durata molto inferiore di quello manuale." https://www.cvev.it/Archivio/Biblioteca/Tesi/TB13_2048_M_Zad...
Barbara L Pavlik (asker) Dec 1, 2021:
@Charlotte... I think it could be. I had to look up what a gyropalette is, but now it all seems to be coming together between your comment and Marco's. I guess I should have posted cestoni as a separate request. If you'd like points for this suggestion, just let me know, and I'll post it.
Charlotte Fleming Dec 1, 2021:
Would the "cestoni" be referring to gyropalette baskets? I found a reference "Prima di passare al dégorgement, le bottiglie sono stoccate “en masses”, ossia in cataste, capovolte" [which the same site translates as "On completion of remuage, the bottles are neck-down (‘sur pointes’) and ready for disgorgement"] at https://www.champagne.fr/it/vite-vino/elaborazione/remuage.

Proposed translations

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breakage on the rack

"Catasta" is a rack on which champagne is stored (at an angle) during the in-bottle fermentation phase. See https://it.mimi.hu/vino/catasta.html
Peer comment(s):

agree philgoddard : Yes, catasta means pile, but they're not just heaped on top of one another.
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breakage on wooden slats

For the "prise de mousse" the bottles are resting horizontally on wooden slats.

Check "Note 6" here:
https://www.darapri.it/immagini/nuove_mie/tesifabio/processo...

https://www.cuveemarcoul.fr/en/la-méthode-traditionnelle
https://www.misterchampagne.ch/gb/content/8-faq
https://www.champagne-fresne-emilien.fr/producteur-champagne...


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Note added at 3 hrs (2021-12-01 17:16:00 GMT)
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A picture here: http://www.dorigati.it/it/spumantizzazione/#PhotoSwipe163837...
Peer comment(s):

neutral philgoddard : Wooden slats = rack.
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A wine rack is something different, bottles are put on racks after the period on wooden slats.
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