Glossary entry

English term or phrase:

to be in relationship with

English answer:

people with whom they have close relationships

Added to glossary by Yvonne Gallagher
Nov 5, 2019 15:49
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English term

to be in relationship with

English Other General / Conversation / Greetings / Letters people with avoidant attachment
Dear colleagues,
I was wondering about the meaning of "to be in relationship with” in the context below, taken from a parenting book. This expression seems to be used also to refer specifically to romantic relationships, but I’m not completely sure whether it refers instead to relationships in general…
Thank you very much in advance for your help!

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The children with the first type of insecure attachment, avoidant attachment, tend to grow up to be adults who have difficulty connecting not only with others, but also with their internal landscape. They are often unaware of or unwilling to deal with emotions, and they have difficulty connecting with the minds and emotions of others ** they are in relationship with **. They rigidly avoid dealing with the past, their emotions, and relational closeness.
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Nov 13, 2019 00:21: Yvonne Gallagher Created KOG entry

Discussion

haribert (asker) Nov 7, 2019:
Hi, Bruno, I can see what you mean and for many people with this pattern of attachment is certainly true, but in a subsequent part of the text, the author says: ""They might become immensely successful in certain areas of their lives—possibly even developing excellent social skills in a public setting—but because of their discomfort with intimacy, they essentially dismiss the importance of close relationships and thus live without that deeper connection personally" So maybe, these people may cope in "superficial" relationships, but they would probably have more problems in intimate relationships...
Bruno Santos Nov 7, 2019:
@ Asker Take the context of work, for example: we are talking about interpersonal relationships here. Someone with the aforementioned background is likely to have a hard time "connecting with the minds and emotions" of other members of his team, thus increasing the chances that he might not be a good "click" with the rest of the staff, especially if he has problems to connect and be empathetic. So, these children "tend to grow up to be adults who have difficulty connecting not only with others, but also with their internal landscape", meaning they are likely to have problems with relationships of any order. The text is involving social, romantic and whatever else kind of relationship. Think of someone who has been insecure during their whole childhood, are they going to be masters of romantic relationships but not so good at social skills? I do not think so. The text implies that this same person is likely to have a hard time connecting with people in general (coworkers, friends, a stranger needing some degree of empathy in the street, lovers, parents, just anyone). When you meet anyone and communicate, that is again one more relationship (social), one more example of human interaction.
haribert (asker) Nov 6, 2019:
Amel, it's "to be in relationship" without "s"...
Bashiqa Nov 6, 2019:
@ Yvonne Thank you. I can see that now that i have my specs on.
Arabic & More Nov 6, 2019:
@haribert Just curious, but did the original text contain an "s" ("they are in relationships with"), or have you written it exactly as it appears in the text (with no "s")? For me personally, being IN a relationship (or IN relationships) means romantic relationships...different than people you "have" relationships with (like social relationships with family members, etc.). But the lack of the "s" is a little puzzling. Alternatively, if this had said "in a relationship with," that would also imply romantic relationships. But there is also no "a" here, and "they are in relationship with" just sounds a little odd to me.
haribert (asker) Nov 5, 2019:
Yvonne, thank you so much for this really interesting link!
Yvonne Gallagher Nov 5, 2019:
@ Asker well, that clinches it as far as I'm concerned.
See here as well: https://static1.squarespace.com/static/56c0eeaa7c65e465b5050...
Relationship scientists investigate many types of relationships,
but the primary emphasis is on close relationships—those characterized by “strong, frequent, and diverse interdependence that lasts over a considerable period of time” (Kelley ...)...
Attachment theory , which initially focused on infant–caregiver relationships, traces its roots to Bowlby’s (...) trilogy on attachment, separation, and loss. The theory was adapted to explain the nature of close relationships between adults in the 1980s (...), and it joined interdependence theory as a dominant model of adult relationships in the 1990s (... 1994). .According to attachment theory, people develop emotional bonds with significant others (usually romantic partners in adulthood) and are motivated to maintain these bonds over time (...). People seek proximity to their primary attachment figure, especially when they are stressed, ill, or afraid..."
haribert (asker) Nov 5, 2019:
Hi, first of all thanks for your help! Actually, I tend to think it is more in the sense of "romantic or close" relationships, because at first the text says "difficulty connecting with others" in general and then "with the minds and emotions" even with their partners...

In another section, the text reads:

"They might become immensely successful in certain areas of their lives—possibly even developing excellent social skills in a public setting—but because of their discomfort with intimacy, they essentially dismiss the importance of close relationships and thus live without that deeper connection personally" (...) As a result, their partners may often experience loneliness and emotional distance, and their own children are primed to develop the exact same way of relating with the world.
haribert (asker) Nov 5, 2019:
Hi, Bashiqa, actually this refers to adults, "children who tend to become adults who have difficulty connection with others": having had avoidant attachment in childhood, they develop what is called "dismissing attachment" pattern in adulthood.
Yvonne Gallagher Nov 5, 2019:
@ Bashiqa "grow up to be adults "[...] they are adult relationships
Bashiqa Nov 5, 2019:
Several possibilities depending on age of child. Is their age indicated in the book?

Responses

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people with whom they have (any) relationships

relationships in this context usually means partners...boyfriend/girlfriend or spouse

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Note added at 9 mins (2019-11-05 15:59:04 GMT)
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it does say "relational closeness"=close relations so NOT just acquaintances in my view
Peer comment(s):

neutral philgoddard : I agree with "any relationships", but not "partners".//Friends, family...
4 mins
Well, it does say close relations! Do you have an emotional relationship with acquaintances or work colleagues? Yes, possibly with very close friends but not with "relationships in general. Any level of relationship in [sic] a social basis"
agree David Moore (X) : IMHO, this is almost invariably used as a euphemism for a partnership, be it marital or not.
44 mins
Many thanks:-)
agree Tony M : I think the key point here is that it is not the lay person's "in a relationship with", but the psychologists "in relationship with" (i.e. no 'a')
1 hr
Many thanks:-) exactly, there are pointers to the meaning!
agree Tina Vonhof (X) : Family and friends I would think and that would include partners or spouses.
5 hrs
Many thanks:-) Yes, close relationships
agree AllegroTrans : Family/teachers/carers etc. etc.
18 hrs
Thanks:-)
agree katsy
20 hrs
Thanks:-)
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To be connected with someone else

It encompasses relationships in general. Any level of relationship in a social basis. The word "relationship" there is not concerned with romance nor love (like having a partner), rather it refers to any kind of connection with someone else. "Relationship" by itself is not restricted to "love" as in a romance; that is, it can be used in different contexts to mean different degrees of connection with people.
Peer comment(s):

agree philgoddard : I think the English is slightly awkward. I would say "relate to".
4 mins
Thank you, philgoddard. I agree, "relate to" sounds better and more precise.
disagree David Moore (X) : Unusual that Phil and I should take opposite views on this, but my understanding of the use of the term is as a euphemism for a close partnerhsip - nothing to do with "social" connections.
49 mins
To me, someone with that background is likely to have a hard time connecting with others. In society, in general, that same person might find it difficult to be empathetic, because it is all about "connecting with the minds and emotions of others"
agree Elias Marios Kounas : I think it is quite obvious that the author uses a psychological approach. Therefore, I think that the definition of a "social relation" in social science as"any relationship between two or more individuals" is relevant here. Link: https://en.wikipedia.or
1 hr
Thank you, Ilias. That is it, they are all social interactions in the end.
agree neda ghaemi
1 day 17 hrs
Thank you, neda!
neutral Yvonne Gallagher : 100%? This is really a disagree. You continue to ignore/misunderstand the "relational closeness" part. This is NOT about "all social interactions" or "Any level of relationship in [sic] a social basis"
1 day 22 hrs
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they are involved with

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relationship

people with whom they have contacts, relationships
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interaction with others

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Relationship

Being in relationship with means there's a connection that surpasses the physical. Suffice to say there are dealings between the parties that call for them to be yoked together for the relationship to achieve its purpose.
Example sentence:

It was easier for the negotiations to take root as those two were in a relationship.

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