Glossary entry (derived from question below)
English term or phrase:
preserving the old graces
English answer:
keeping to old traditions (traditional ways of doing things, courtesy, manners) and preserving them
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Yvonne Gallagher
Aug 21, 2019 22:36
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preserving the old graces
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I don't understand the meaning of this phrase. Could you, please, explain to me what does it mean?
Line: Well, not everyone would stand up against such enormous difficulties, preserving the old graces. Scotsman devoted to his family.
Link: https://youtu.be/B3tZdUKWHMM
Time: 10:30 until 10:36
Thanks!
Line: Well, not everyone would stand up against such enormous difficulties, preserving the old graces. Scotsman devoted to his family.
Link: https://youtu.be/B3tZdUKWHMM
Time: 10:30 until 10:36
Thanks!
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Yvonne Gallagher
Ireland
Ireland
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English
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Ireland
right word, right place. everytime
Native in: English (Variants: Irish, UK, US, Canadian) 
Works in: French to English, Spanish to English, English, and 1 more.
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keeping to old traditions (traditional ways of doing things, courtesy, manners) and preserving them
preserving old courtesies
https://books.google.ie/books?id=kRpJDwAAQBAJ&pg=PT30&lpg=PT...
"The old manners, the old courtesy, the old graces that made life sweet. All is hurry and selfishness and thick skin..."
it's STAUNCHLY devoted to his family
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https://books.google.ie/books?id=nOAtpUTjewEC&pg=PA20&lpg=PA...
Things change almost yearly and the old graces are out of style, are changed, or even make room for the more recent fashions
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Note added at 42 mins (2019-08-21 23:19:39 GMT)
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https://www.goodreads.com/quotes/8538365-my-generation-of-ra...
“My generation of radicals and breakers-down never found anything to take the place of the old virtues of work and courage and the old graces of courtesy and ...
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Note added at 43 mins (2019-08-21 23:20:21 GMT)
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NB not Scotsman but STAUNCHLY
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Note added at 44 mins (2019-08-21 23:21:22 GMT)
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https://www.collinsdictionary.com/dictionary/english/staunch
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Note added at 1 day 12 hrs (2019-08-23 11:00:09 GMT) Post-grading
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Glad to have helped.
You noticed my comment about "staunchly" (not "Scotsman") I hope?
https://books.google.ie/books?id=kRpJDwAAQBAJ&pg=PT30&lpg=PT...
"The old manners, the old courtesy, the old graces that made life sweet. All is hurry and selfishness and thick skin..."
it's STAUNCHLY devoted to his family
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Note added at 41 mins (2019-08-21 23:18:27 GMT)
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https://books.google.ie/books?id=nOAtpUTjewEC&pg=PA20&lpg=PA...
Things change almost yearly and the old graces are out of style, are changed, or even make room for the more recent fashions
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Note added at 42 mins (2019-08-21 23:19:39 GMT)
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https://www.goodreads.com/quotes/8538365-my-generation-of-ra...
“My generation of radicals and breakers-down never found anything to take the place of the old virtues of work and courage and the old graces of courtesy and ...
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Note added at 43 mins (2019-08-21 23:20:21 GMT)
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NB not Scotsman but STAUNCHLY
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Note added at 44 mins (2019-08-21 23:21:22 GMT)
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https://www.collinsdictionary.com/dictionary/english/staunch
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Note added at 1 day 12 hrs (2019-08-23 11:00:09 GMT) Post-grading
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Glad to have helped.
You noticed my comment about "staunchly" (not "Scotsman") I hope?
4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer.
Comment: "Thanks again for your help!"
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Ali Sharifi
United States
United States
United States
I follow my binding words everywhere
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Works in: English to Persian (Farsi), Persian (Farsi) to English, French to Persian (Farsi), and 3 more.
keeping the gracious manners
The polite and sweet behaviour pleasing to the addressee.
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Lara Barnett
United Kingdom
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English
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United Kingdom
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Native in: English (Variants: Irish, Singaporean, UK, South African, British, Scottish)
Works in: French to English, Italian to English, Romanian to English, and 2 more.
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16
traditional values
He is saying that in the face of such adversity, he still managed to keep hold of traditional values, morals or duties.
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And I would also say that there is a nuance by the use of the word "grace" (when so many other words could have been used), which suggests that, by managing to uphold these values amidst such difficulties, this guy has acquired a kind of elegance, charm or moral worth.
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Note added at 39 mins (2019-08-21 23:16:46 GMT)
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You would say "preserving (or even "cherishing") traditional values
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...unti he almost has a kind of pious aura around him.
I.e. the nuanced use of this noun has an association of piousness.
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"At a time when SOCIAL VALUES AND GRACES are being re-examined and re-established, this trend embodies all that is traditional.".
https://www.thenational.ae/lifestyle/home/trendspotting-a-pa...
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Note added at 8 hrs (2019-08-22 07:11:07 GMT)
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My use of "values" can be explained through the expression "SOCIAL VALUES". This may explain the idea:
"SOCIAL VALUES are most important aspects of a social system, which play a predominant role in running and maintaining the social order. They provide not only the general guidelines for social conduct and behaviour, but also establish the norms in society."
https://www.quora.com/What-are-some-examples-of-social-value...
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The point with using the term "preserving/upholding traditional VALUES" is that it is strongly implied that the character/person in question has been carrying out his/her duties, tasks, lifelong efforts etc in a way that keeps sight of these traditions.
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Note added at 36 mins (2019-08-21 23:13:21 GMT)
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And I would also say that there is a nuance by the use of the word "grace" (when so many other words could have been used), which suggests that, by managing to uphold these values amidst such difficulties, this guy has acquired a kind of elegance, charm or moral worth.
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Note added at 39 mins (2019-08-21 23:16:46 GMT)
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You would say "preserving (or even "cherishing") traditional values
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Note added at 1 hr (2019-08-21 23:46:19 GMT)
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...unti he almost has a kind of pious aura around him.
I.e. the nuanced use of this noun has an association of piousness.
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Note added at 8 hrs (2019-08-22 07:03:18 GMT)
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"At a time when SOCIAL VALUES AND GRACES are being re-examined and re-established, this trend embodies all that is traditional.".
https://www.thenational.ae/lifestyle/home/trendspotting-a-pa...
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Note added at 8 hrs (2019-08-22 07:11:07 GMT)
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My use of "values" can be explained through the expression "SOCIAL VALUES". This may explain the idea:
"SOCIAL VALUES are most important aspects of a social system, which play a predominant role in running and maintaining the social order. They provide not only the general guidelines for social conduct and behaviour, but also establish the norms in society."
https://www.quora.com/What-are-some-examples-of-social-value...
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Note added at 11 hrs (2019-08-22 09:59:38 GMT)
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The point with using the term "preserving/upholding traditional VALUES" is that it is strongly implied that the character/person in question has been carrying out his/her duties, tasks, lifelong efforts etc in a way that keeps sight of these traditions.
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Tony M
: But it's not really about the values as such, but rather, the gracious manners that may or may not have gone with them.
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Yes, but I would say its about both, hence my comment about the character using the term "graces" rather than actually saying manners or values or whatever.// And using "preserving traditional" alongside "values" does not qualify it's meaning in any way?
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