Feb 15, 2019 14:32
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Russian term
United States
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Native in: Russian 
Works in: English to Russian, Russian to English, Ukrainian to English
свечи смоляные
Russian to English
Art/Literary
History
И вот вижу престол посреди храма, кругом престола в три ряда свечи смоляные горят.
What would be a good English equivalent of смоляные свечи? What anything like that used in the past?
What would be a good English equivalent of смоляные свечи? What anything like that used in the past?
Proposed translations
(English)
| 4 | resin candles, candles made of resin |
Gregory Baruch
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| 5 | black candles |
Boris Shapiro
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| 4 | resin candlesResin candle holders |
Jack Doughty
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| 4 -1 | gum candles / magic candles |
Turdimurod Rakhmanov
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Proposed translations
28 mins
Gregory Baruch
Türkiye
Türkiye
Native in Russian
&
English
Türkiye
Economics, natural sciences and IT
Native in: Russian (Variant: Standard-Russia) , English (Variants: US, Canadian, British) 
Works in: Russian to English, English to Russian, Turkish to English, and 6 more.
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4
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resin candles, candles made of resin
Wax is not the only material candles can be made of, in some cases resin can be used,
4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer.
27 mins
Jack Doughty
United Kingdom
United Kingdom
Native in English
Works in field
United Kingdom
Translator since 1953
Native in: English
Works in: Russian to English, German to English, English
Related KudoZ points
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60
resin candlesResin candle holders
Resin candle holders | Etsy
https://www.etsy.com/uk/market/resin_candle_holders
You searched for: resin candle holders! Etsy is the home to thousands of handmade, vintage, and one-of-a-kind products and gifts related to your search.
pine resin candle - YouTube
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NDPmWGuFNTM
Video for resin candle
▶ 5:53
7 Oct 2011 - Uploaded by strat2206
showing you how to make a pine resin candle please comment and subscribe.
https://www.etsy.com/uk/market/resin_candle_holders
You searched for: resin candle holders! Etsy is the home to thousands of handmade, vintage, and one-of-a-kind products and gifts related to your search.
pine resin candle - YouTube
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NDPmWGuFNTM
Video for resin candle
▶ 5:53
7 Oct 2011 - Uploaded by strat2206
showing you how to make a pine resin candle please comment and subscribe.
Peer comment(s):
| neutral |
Boris Shapiro
: That Etsy link proves very little, as 'resin' there can easily be a modifier for 'holders'.
As for that prepper's vid, it is not the kind of candle one can imagine in a Russian Orhodox context.
3 hrs
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27 mins
Turdimurod Rakhmanov
Kyrgyzstan
Kyrgyzstan
Works in field
Kyrgyzstan
Education, Legal, Technical & Medical
Native in: Uzbek (Variants: Samarkand-Bukhara, Khorezm, Tashkent, Ferghana valley) , Kirghiz
Works in: English to Uzbek, English to Kirghiz, English to Kazakh, and 26 more.
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12
gum candles / magic candles
gum candles / candles made of gumtree
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Note added at 27 mins (2019-02-15 15:00:31 GMT)
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nGbCrttUd_w
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Note added at 27 mins (2019-02-15 15:00:31 GMT)
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nGbCrttUd_w
Peer comment(s):
| disagree |
Boris Shapiro
: На видео обычная свечка производства фирмы GUM. Из gum, то есть камеди, свечи не делают - это не горючее вещество.
Magic имеет нейтральные (а для современного читателя зачастую и положительные) коннотации, что в данном случае неуместно.
3 hrs
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gum тоже смола, не только эвкалипта gum смола и других деревьев и еще вариант magic candle which makes sense here. Tree gum can be used to make candles please, see here: http://www.gfc.state.ga.us/resources/publications/WhatDoWeGe...
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4 hrs
Boris Shapiro
Russian Federation
Russian Federation
Native in Russian
Russian Federation
Doing 9000/6000 w/d as editor/translator
Native in: Russian
Works in: English to Russian, Russian to English, Russian
black candles
Подумайте, что для вас важно - точно передать материал, из которого эти свечи сделаны, или то, что они символизируют? Материал, даже если вы переведёте его точно, ничего не скажет читателю о том, что это плохие, чёрные свечи, противопоставляемые правильным, светлым, тогда как наиболее существенным компонентом смысла является именно это.
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Note added at 4 hrs (2019-02-15 18:45:05 GMT)
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TWIMC: it is the meaning/significance of such a candle that counts, not the material. It's not like this is a DIY instruction.
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Note added at 4 hrs (2019-02-15 18:45:05 GMT)
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TWIMC: it is the meaning/significance of such a candle that counts, not the material. It's not like this is a DIY instruction.
Reference:
http://soborjane.ru/2017/04/20/son-o-konchine-mire-svyatogo-pravednogo-ioanna-kronshtadtskogo/
Peer comment(s):
| neutral |
Turdimurod Rakhmanov
: black candle could have two meanings, colour and bad ? I think magic would render clearer meaning. Тогда как лучше перевести "Смоляные чёрные свечи" думаю только "black" не достаточно.
40 mins
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In this case, both meanings of 'black' are very much appropriate. Follow the link I posted.
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