Glossary entry (derived from question below)
French term or phrase:
idem
English translation:
as per; as for; the same as for
French term
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idem
As mentioned in my previous question, I'm translating a document that consists mainly of the text from one page of an automotive supplier's website. At the end of the document (but not on the webpage itself), the above appears in italics. It is followed by an italicised list of categories (e.g. équipement atelier, après-vente, outillage).
On the actual webpage, each of these categories appears as a clickable link to another page on the same site. That page, in turn, displays several sublinks (e.g. levage, carrosserie, contrôle technique).
Would "as per" be a suitable translation for "idem" here? In other words, the second-level pages should be inserted as per the "page carrefour", or in the same way as the "page carrefour"?
| 4 +5 | as per |
Sheila Wilson
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| 5 +5 | the same as |
Mark Nathan
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| 4 | same |
Alex Grimaldi
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Proposed translations
Spain
20 years producing 100% natural English
Native in: English (Variant: British) 
Works in: English, French to English
as per
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B D Finch
: This also has the virtue of being short. Could also use "as for" or "as with".
1 hr
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Thanks, B D. Yes, they're all possible
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Odette Grille (X)
2 hrs
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Thanks, Odette
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Victoria Britten
2 hrs
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Thanks, Victoria
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katsy
3 hrs
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Thanks, katsy
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Mpoma
2 days 6 hrs
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Thanks, Mpoma
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France
Life Sciences, PhD | Technologies
Native in: French (Variant: Standard-France) 
, Italian (Variant: Standard-Italy)
Works in: English to French, Italian to French, French to English, and 1 more.
same
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Tony M
: "same for" would not really be correct here — it would tend to imply that you must make the Carrefour age like this one, when in fact the reverse is intended; Mark has it right using 'same as' (or 'same as for...')
37 mins
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the same as
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Tony M
: "in the same way as for..."
32 mins
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Hi Tony, hope you are enjoying the festive season!
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Elisabeth Gootjes
: or keep "idem"
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Yes, why not!
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Daryo
3 hrs
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philgoddard
: Though I don't agree with Elisabeth's and Sheila's "idem". We don't use this in English - it's "ditto".
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Eliza Hall
8 hrs
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Discussion
Hence it's not uch help referring to "my previous questions" — far better to repeat the whole context every time (even if to you it feels as if you are repeating yourself!); or at the very least, give a link to the previous question(s) you are referring to.