Oct 18, 2018 17:00
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French term

en forfait jours

French to English Other Human Resources Employment
Pour les salariés qui ne sont pas en forfait jours, dans le cadre de la gestion du ..........., la valorisation monétaire retenue d’une journée était de 8 heures.

I understand that 'en forfait jours' refers to a contractual arrangement whereby the employee works an agreed number of days per year. Is this right and is there a standard and concise way of expressing this?

Discussion

Sue Davis (asker) Oct 20, 2018:
Many thanks to all, both answers were valid, but I am only allowed to choose one! In fact this term came up multiple times in different ways so the refs provided by all including Marco were very helpful.
Marco Solinas Oct 18, 2018:
To asker Have you seen this? Does it help? https://www.proz.com/kudoz/french-to-english/human-resources...
Also, this site gives a clear explanation of the mechanism: https://www.lexology.com/library/detail.aspx?g=382f8e8d-75af...

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package agreement on annual working days

The term "forfait en [...] jours" appears in the French Labour Code at Article 3121-64.

The English version of a case at the European Council of Rights, at https://rm.coe.int/cc149-2017-piece-n-1-complaint/1680761680 , uses the term "package agreement on annual working days"- see page 10.

However, it's not very concise...
Peer comment(s):

agree Lorraine Dubuc : Makes sense.
9 mins
agree SafeTex : The system encompasses much more than just being paid on a daily rate and this is situation where a literal translation leaves too much unsaid. It needs to be fleshed out and this does just that
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agree GILLES MEUNIER
13 hrs
agree B D Finch
15 hrs
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4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer. Comment: "Many thanks John the reference was very useful"
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on a daily rate

It usually means "paid on a 'per day' basis, irrespective of the number of hours actually worked".

This makes sense in your context, since the number of hours per day doesn't apply if you're on a 'daily rate', but if not, as here, it is necessary to define the number of hours in a 'normal' day, in order to be able to correctly calculate the salary, leave entitlement, etc.
Peer comment(s):

agree Olga Koepping : particularly in the context
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Thanks, Olga!
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