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Glossary entry

French term or phrase:

à billet majoré

English translation:

ticketed

Added to glossary by Dareth Pray
Aug 1, 2017 13:52
7 yrs ago
French term

à billet majoré

French to English Bus/Financial Tourism & Travel Museum terms and conditions
Here is the sentence:

Tout visiteur d’exposition “à billet majoré” doit présenter son billet ou titre au contrôle des billets et respecter la date et l’horaire inscrit sur son billet.

They are discussing admissions policies and procedures, discounted tickets, etc.

I know what they are saying, I just can't think of how we would say this in English. It seems to be about admission into special exhibitions at an additional charge. This term seems to be describing the exhibition itself, not the admission. Can't think of a word for this.

Thanks!
Proposed translations (English)
2 +2 ticketed [exhibition]
3 +1 upgraded ticket
4 for which an additional charge applies
4 premium ticket
Change log

Aug 1, 2017 14:05: writeaway changed "Field" from "Art/Literary" to "Bus/Financial"

Discussion

writeaway Aug 1, 2017:
special admittance can mean anything. not just that there is an extra charge involved.
Dareth Pray (asker) Aug 1, 2017:
Exactly, the French is STRAIGHTFORWARD. That is it exactly. The English description we have agreed on is clear but is decidedly not straightforward and is extremely clunky. I am trying to avoid clunky.
writeaway Aug 1, 2017:
Clarity is also very important, if not more so Elegance is nice but the Fr is rather straightforward. To get in to some exhibits, there is an additional charge. I don't see the need to be clunky but is overly elegant phraseology really the issue here?
Fodor's New York City - Google Books Result
https://books.google.com/books?isbn=0804143706
Fodor's Travel Guides - 2016 - ‎Travel
In the $62 million exhibit Madagascar!, the formality of the old Lion House has been replaced with a ... Also note that there is an extra charge for some exhibits. See other examples on the www
Dareth Pray (asker) Aug 1, 2017:
I think that Writeaway, Rachel, and myself are all in agreement on the meaning. There just has to be a more elegant solution for this phrase than a ten-word description in English. This is part of the official documentation of a very well-known museum. I need something refined.
Dareth Pray (asker) Aug 1, 2017:
@Ana Vozone Once again, this term does not modify "ticket." It modifies "exhibit."
Rachel Fell Aug 1, 2017:
agree with writeaway, exhibitions for which an extra admission charge/fee applies is quite common
Ana Vozone Aug 1, 2017:
Added-value ticket A Gold Star Ticket is an added-value ticket that includes the ticket purchase price plus $10 of added-value to each ticket barcode.

Regular visitors to Burghley House near Stamford will be able to take advantage of a new added-value ticket for 2017 - offering free return visits
writeaway Aug 1, 2017:
Exhibits for which additional admission charges apply? Or back to the surcharge idea. A surcharge is applied to visit xxx exhibit?
writeaway Aug 1, 2017:
I SHOULD know but claustrophobic moi admired all the Paris museums from the outside.
The only museum I managed was the Kröller-Müller in Holland because it was possible to run out into the garden (with Rodin sculptures) when being inside became unbearable. I was constantly dashing to the outside steps at the NY Met as well. (Free admission back then)
Dareth Pray (asker) Aug 1, 2017:
Yes, that is the concept exactly, I think, based on the rest of the document. However, I am convinced that there is an elegant term for this in the museum world.
writeaway Aug 1, 2017:
Well, than an additional/special exhibit not included with the ordinary ticket
Dareth Pray (asker) Aug 1, 2017:
Yes, there is almost certainly a surcharge associated with the ticket, but to repeat myself yet again, this term modifies "exposition." I don't think we would say "visitors of an exhibition with a surcharge."
writeaway Aug 1, 2017:
sounds like some sort of surcharge perhaps?
Dareth Pray (asker) Aug 1, 2017:
Regarding "free entry" There is free entry, regular entry, and entry to special exhibits. This concerns the entry to a special exhibit, which presumably costs more and which is subject to the times indicated on the ticket.

This term modifies "exposition." That makes it about the exhibition, not the ticket itself.
writeaway Aug 1, 2017:
This is about tickets so business, not art and literary. museum T&C is also in the heading so it's clear.
writeaway Aug 1, 2017:
So there is also free entry? See Art. 25 (term asked is in Art. 26):
http://www.culture.gouv.fr/culture/infos-pratiques/bo/bo_pdf...
Dareth Pray (asker) Aug 1, 2017:
Change of field by Writeaway I initially thought about listing it as a business question but decided against it because this term is really referring to the exhibition, not the ticket itself, and I was hoping that someone with museum and art experience would weigh in.

Proposed translations

+2
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Selected

ticketed [exhibition]

Just a suggestion - in contrast to a free exhibition or general admission

9 Tate’s Audience Research and Digital teams monitor audience analytics for on-site and online visitors for all exhibiting activity (both the ticketed exhibitions and the non-ticketed displays of the permanent collection).
http://www.tate.org.uk/research/publications/tate-papers/25/...

Deliver one major ticketed exhibition and 2 free exhibitions including one contemporary science exhibition per year
https://group.sciencemuseum.org.uk/wp-content/uploads/2017/0...

https://www.fieldmuseum.org/at-the-field/exhibitions/tickete...

Royal Museums Greenwich Members get free entry to all our ticketed areas and exhibitions
http://www.rmg.co.uk/royal-observatory/facilities-access
Note from asker:
Yes!!! Excellent Alison, that is exactly the kind of thing I was thinking of. In fact, I found several examples of a "special ticketed exhibition" online on museum websites.
Peer comment(s):
agree Margaret Morrison : Yes or combine with other answer for "premium ticketed (event etc)
1 hr
Thanks, Starbar. Perhaps separately ticketed might be yet another option.
agree GILLES MEUNIER
13 hrs
Merci, GILOU !
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4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer. Comment: "Thanks! This is perfect."
+1
13 mins

upgraded ticket

A ticket that offers the visitor more than if they had bought a standard ticket.

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Note added at 23 mins (2017-08-01 14:16:08 GMT)
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Visitors of an exhibition where visitors can buy upgraded tickets, for instance, to be allowed to take photos, etc. If you do a basic search, you will find examples of what Chakib and I suggested.
Note from asker:
I disagree. The term does not concern the ticket. It concerns the exhibition: "exposition “à billet majoré”". I am sure that we wouldn't say "visitors of an upgraded-ticket exhibition."
Peer comment(s):
agree Chakib Roula
1 min
Merci, Chakib!
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1 hr

for which an additional charge applies

Or "requiring a special ticket".
From the context, I can't see any other possible meaning, though this may be an unusual way of expressing it. They've also managed to cram four "billets" into one sentence.
If this is a French museum you may want to ask them whether they want British or American English, ie exhibition or exhibit.
Note from asker:
I like "requiring a special ticket." What would you think about a "special admittance exhibit"? Also, American English is requested. Thanks Phil!
Peer comment(s):
neutral writeaway : sounds very familiar. you mean you didn't see the dbox?
30 mins
How do you mean?
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1 hr

premium ticket

my take

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Note added at 1 hr (2017-08-01 15:34:00 GMT)
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'With a premium ticket' I mean!

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Note added at 2 hrs (2017-08-01 16:30:21 GMT)
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http://www.premiumtickets.net/

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Note added at 3 days1 hr (2017-08-04 15:08:57 GMT)
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For example, sold-out concert or sporting-event tickets may be sold at a premium, at a price above their face value, in the secondary market.

Read more: At A Premium http://www.investopedia.com/terms/a/at-a-premium.asp#ixzz4on...
Note from asker:
Haha! I almost jumped all over you until I saw your note, Francois! "Premium" is an intriguing direction. That might work.
Peer comment(s):
neutral B D Finch : I'd considered posting that very answer, but the term seems to be used more for sports events where premium tickets give access to special facilities, refreshments etc.// In your link, it's a company name and they seem to use "premium" to mean "prestige".
4 hrs
In the US (see the attachment), the expression is used for any show or spectacle.// Read the economic definition of a premium ticket in a secondary market.
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