Glossary entry

French term or phrase:

cote

English translation:

explicitly stated dimensions

Added to glossary by Rimas Balsys
Dec 12, 2016 01:22
7 yrs ago
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French term

cote

French to English Tech/Engineering Ships, Sailing, Maritime
This is a tender invitation (in Canadian French) to build or supply a motorized inland waterway barge. The "Priority of Documents" section at the beginning says:
"Le Devis des travaux prime sur les Plans;
Les **cotes** priment sur les mesures à l'échelle;
Les plans de détail priment sur les plans d'ensemble"
Does this just mean that the measurements stated in the specifications take priority over measurements derivable from scale drawings? ...or?
Many thanks :-)

Proposed translations

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written dimension

I think the point here is that "cote" refers to a measurement written on the plan, as opposed to the same measurement deduced from the scale. Say, for example, that the scale is 1:48 (1/4" to a foot, which is quite common), and when you measure a line on the plan with your ruler, it measures exactly 1.25 inches, equivalent to exactly 5 feet, but the written measurement says 5 feet 2 inches, the written measurement takes precedence over the one that the scale gives you.

That's what "cote" means in architecture and industrial design:

"1. ARCHIT., DESSIN INDUSTR. Indication de dimension inscrite sur un plan, un croquis, une coupe, permettant d'exécuter un ouvrage à partir de ce plan."
http://www.cnrtl.fr/definition/cote

And this is a standard rule:

"Scales
Drawings are typically drawn to scale. This means that the estimator can take measurements directly from the drawings to obtain the dimensions of walls, footings, etc. However, written dimensions shown on the drawings take precedence over scaled dimensions."
http://cmfac.groups.et.byu.net/miller/cfm105/notes/drawStruc...

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Note added at 5 hrs (2016-12-12 07:13:50 GMT)
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I should have said in architecture and technical drawing.
Peer comment(s):

agree Tony M : Yes, possibly even 'explicit dimensions'?
16 mins
That's the sense, yes. Or maybe even "explicit written dimensions", to take a belt-and-braces approach? Thanks, Tony!
agree Nikki Scott-Despaigne : "actual dimensions"//Ah, yes. That makes sense. Thank you Charles.
3 hrs
Thanks, Nikki! That's what they are, but it specifically means the "indications inscrites sur le plan", and I would make that explicit.
agree B D Finch : Not Nikki's "actual dimensions", because that could be taken as "dimensions as constructed". Because, unusually, the drawings do not take precedence, it cannot be assumed that these "cotes" are (always) on the drawings unless the ST says so.
4 hrs
Thanks, Barbara // Good point; I hadn't noticed that. Though I suppose it might mean (a) figures in estimate take precedence over plans; (b) within the plans, written dimensions take precedence over scale.
agree Drmanu49
4 hrs
Thanks, Drmanu!
agree Didier Fourcot : "specified dimensions" to include both the ones in the drawings and the ones in other docs?
1 day 1 hr
Many thanks, Didier. That's a good solution, I think.
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individual dimensions

From how I understand it: individual dimensions/specific dimensions - with regard to measurement scale - are to take priority over more general scale of measurements.
Peer comment(s):

agree Manoj Chauhan
5 days
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