Aug 30, 2015 12:17
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French term
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grand cadre
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Law/Patents
Mechanics / Mech Engineering
This is from a patent regarding a pantograph for railway vehicles:
Un pantographe comporte de manière classique une partie inférieure, connue de l'homme du métier sous la désignation de grand cadre, dont la base est reliée au toit de la motrice et une partie supérieure, connue de l'homme du métier sous la désignation d'archet...
And then later:
Le cadre du pantographe est articulé et comporte une partie inférieure couramment désigné "grand cadre" et une partie supérieure couramment désignée "petit cadre". Un tel cadre de pantographe est classique et connu de l'homme du métier.
I don't know what 'petit cadre' is either, but I'll start with 'grand cadre' first!
The claims for this translation were given to me in English; elsewhere, 'cadre' is translated as 'framework' so maybe just a literal translation is needed but I'm not sure.
Thanks in advance!
Un pantographe comporte de manière classique une partie inférieure, connue de l'homme du métier sous la désignation de grand cadre, dont la base est reliée au toit de la motrice et une partie supérieure, connue de l'homme du métier sous la désignation d'archet...
And then later:
Le cadre du pantographe est articulé et comporte une partie inférieure couramment désigné "grand cadre" et une partie supérieure couramment désignée "petit cadre". Un tel cadre de pantographe est classique et connu de l'homme du métier.
I don't know what 'petit cadre' is either, but I'll start with 'grand cadre' first!
The claims for this translation were given to me in English; elsewhere, 'cadre' is translated as 'framework' so maybe just a literal translation is needed but I'm not sure.
Thanks in advance!
Proposed translations
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| 4 | lower arm |
claude-andrew
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| 4 | base frame |
kashew
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| 2 | large frame |
Marco Solinas
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References
| Arms |
claude-andrew
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Proposed translations
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lower arm
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Marco Solinas
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large frame
This appears to be a translation of your document: http://www.google.com/patents/EP2699445B1?cl=en
I have no idea whether it is a good translation. However, the term "large frame" occurs elsewhere with reference to pantographs.
I have no idea whether it is a good translation. However, the term "large frame" occurs elsewhere with reference to pantographs.
Peer comment(s):
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AbrahamS
: This is an automatic translation of a French document ("a support carrying cable which is suspended the contact wire 3 by means of pendulums."). All the references to "large frame" in the proper context that I could find were of that type.
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base frame
http://www.mstelektroteknik.com/Kataloglar/Katalog_Stemmann_...
p11 for labelled diagram
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with adjustment to text that follows (eliminate "dont la base")
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Note added at 2 jours1 heure (2015-09-01 14:06:51 GMT)
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Yes, there are arms, but one can consider them components/attachments to the base and upper frames.
p11 for labelled diagram
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Note added at 2 jours1 heure (2015-09-01 13:58:23 GMT)
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with adjustment to text that follows (eliminate "dont la base")
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Note added at 2 jours1 heure (2015-09-01 14:06:51 GMT)
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Yes, there are arms, but one can consider them components/attachments to the base and upper frames.
Reference comments
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Arms
I gather that in modern pantographs the 2 sections are referred to as "arms" (they more closely resemble arms than frames).
2nd ref.: See page 009 "lower arm" and "upper arm".
2nd ref.: See page 009 "lower arm" and "upper arm".
Example sentence:
Pantographs may have either a single or a double arm. Double-arm pantographs are usually heavier, requiring more power to raise and lower, but may also be more fault-tolerant.
Peer comments on this reference comment:
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Ariane Leverett
: I agree, and have found links to support the use of "arms" in this context. https://www.peter.com.au/articles/pantograph.html
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mchd
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Sally ALLCARD
: Union Internationale des Chemins de fer use 'arm' for cadre in their lexicon
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Discussion
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I have the said encyclopedia, but alas it contains nothing relevant to this question.
By the way, Kashew is right: a diagram or photo will be useful - especially as "base frame" refers to the flat base on which the two arms (or frames!) are mounted.
I don't think your American railroad ref. is anything to go by.
Anyway, I'd insist on a diagram before translating this kind of stuff.
https://books.google.fr/books?id=ygKio-Ks0doC&pg=PA134&lpg=P...
See p11
Have you a diagram with your PA? Easy to compare parts then.
http://www.pctnationalphaser.com/PCT_Patent_Application/4920...