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Glossary entry

French term or phrase:

avec une ancienneté de

English translation:

dating back / covering at least ...

Added to glossary by Rimas Balsys
May 28, 2015 18:44
9 yrs ago
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French term

avec une ancienneté de

French to English Bus/Financial Business/Commerce (general)
This is an application form for an endowment fund scheme for high net worth individuals.
It asks the applicant to send documents as proof of their investment income:
"Ce(s) document(s) doi(ven)t être nominatif(s), indiquer les montants, **avec une ancienneté de** 6 mois au moins".
I'm flummoxed.
Does it mean "at least 6 months old?", "covering at least 6 months?", or "within the last 6 months?"
It is a Luxembourg company and is very-Luxembourg French which is why I'm at sea (no pun intended as Lux is landlocked).
Many thanks as always :-)
Proposed translations (English)
4 +3 dating back to ... / which date back...
3 +4 at least ..... old
4 covering the past ...(6 months)
3 going back over at least the last 6 months

Discussion

Marian Vieyra May 29, 2015:
@ Rimas What's Belgian English???
Rimas Balsys (asker) May 28, 2015:
@ Allegro No offence meant, I'm sure you're right, as apart from work-related one-day visits to Lux many years ago I can't claim any familiarity with Luxembourg everydayspeak. All I can go by in this respect is the financial docs I translate where Lux and Belgian prefs stand out.
AllegroTrans May 28, 2015:
@ Rimas The colloquial language of Luxembourg is not French (unlike part of Switzerland and a swathe of Belgium) - it is Lëtzebuersch, which is derived from German. There is no such thing as Luxembourgish French, although I concede that some of the terms used in the country's administrative system are different from those of France.
Rimas Balsys (asker) May 28, 2015:
@Allegro Colloquially yes but for technical terms (in my experience at least) no. Same is true for Belgian French (and indeed Belgian English). And Swiss French. They all have peculiar and sometimes bizarre preferences. All the more troublesome for tanslators because they all insist that their particular French or English is the only way to say it -- the eurospeak challenge in spades...
AllegroTrans May 28, 2015:
I lived in Luxembourg once and never encountered anything other than French French

Proposed translations

+3
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dating back to ... / which date back...

This is the expression I use, and hear often.
Example sentence:

"It is difficult for the applicant to collect all the pertinent information and documents WHICH DATE BACK from several years."

"We have created a dedicated website for Teaching Scotland where you will find articles and information DATING BACK TO January 2005. "

Reference:

http://www.ic.gc.ca/eic/site/cipointernet-internetopic.nsf/eng/wr03637.html

http://www.gtcs.org.uk/publications/publications.aspx?publication_topic=Practice+Statements&publication_keywords=&view1order=&view1direction

Peer comment(s):
agree AllegroTrans : dating back at least 6 months
7 mins
Thank you.
agree Wendy Streitparth : Yes, this is probably better
14 hrs
Thank you.
agree Marian Vieyra : Best so far.
16 hrs
Thank you.
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4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer. Comment: "Needed tweaking but the best answer, thanks :-)"
+4
4 mins

at least ..... old

Or in other words: "dated at least 6 months previously"
Peer comment(s):
agree Ghyslaine LE NAGARD
1 min
Thanks Ghyslaine
agree Chakib Roula
1 hr
Thanks Chakib
agree Daryo : "dated at least 6 months previously" I very much doubt that in Luxembourg their variant of French is so bizarre as to give to "au moins" some other meaning ...
2 hrs
Thanks, Daryo
agree papier
7 hrs
Thanks, papier
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23 mins

covering the past ...(6 months)

As you've explained the text to be requesting proof of income from potential investors, it would be normal for an investor to be required to provide documentation for a certain period of time. The documentation would not necessarily need to be dated from that time period though, it would just need to demonstrate income during that time period. I hope that makes sense.
Peer comment(s):
agree AllegroTrans : covering AT LEAST the past 6 months
44 mins
agree philgoddard
57 mins
disagree Daryo : that is not the meaning implied by "au moins" + fails the real life check = bankers will always prefer people who had substantial money for at least 6 months over "nouveaux riches"
2 hrs
disagree Ghyslaine LE NAGARD : Nothing says that it is limited to 6 months
11 hrs
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31 mins

going back over at least the last 6 months

Another possibility.
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