Glossary entry (derived from question below)
Italian term or phrase:
Tale fattispecie può realizzarsi
English translation:
This type of offence may occur
Added to glossary by
Marco Solinas
Jan 15, 2013 18:17
11 yrs ago
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Tale fattispecie può realizzarsi
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I am translating a document that lists a large number of offences that a company can commit against the public administration. The phrase "Tale fattispecie può realizzarsi" occurs again and again when describing the offences that can be committed, as in:
"*Tale fattispecie può realizzarsi* nel caso in cui si pongano in essere artifici o raggiri, ad esempio comunicando dati non veri o predisponendo una documentazione falsa, per ottenere finanziamenti pubblici."
The meaning is clear, but I am at a loss for a compact legal phrase that I could use in English. All suggestions are welcome.
"*Tale fattispecie può realizzarsi* nel caso in cui si pongano in essere artifici o raggiri, ad esempio comunicando dati non veri o predisponendo una documentazione falsa, per ottenere finanziamenti pubblici."
The meaning is clear, but I am at a loss for a compact legal phrase that I could use in English. All suggestions are welcome.
Proposed translations
(English)
| 4 +1 | This type of offence may occur |
James (Jim) Davis
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| 4 | Such a result may occur |
Thomas Roberts
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| 4 | these facts can occur simultaneously, thus constituting a criminal offense |
Carl Stoll
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Proposed translations
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54 mins
James (Jim) Davis
Seychelles
Seychelles
Native in English
Works in field
Seychelles
25 years experience constantly improving
Native in: English (Variant: British) 
Works in: Italian to English
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1667
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This type of offence may occur
I imagine this is legislative decree 232/2001. After translating pages and pages of this stuff, as I remember the fattispecie in question were different types of offences which are listsed one after the other.
4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer.
Comment: "Thank you Jim"
1 min
Thomas Roberts
Native in Italian
&
English
Specializes in field
Multilingual academic lawyer
Native in: English (Variant: Scottish) , Italian
Works in: Italian to English, German to English, French to English, and 3 more.
Related KudoZ points
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2715
Such a result may occur
can replace result with situation or eventuality, depending upon context (not clear here)
Peer comment(s):
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Carl Stoll
: "result" is too mild and too vague. "Fattispecie" clearly implies a criminal offense.
26 mins
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| agree |
philgoddard
: Disagree with Carl. It just means a situation or instance. http://dictionary.reverso.net/italian-english/fattispecie
47 mins
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26 mins
Carl Stoll
Argentina
Argentina
Native in English
Specializes in field
Argentina
Reliability Writ Large
Native in: English , Spanish
Works in: Italian to English, German to English, French to English, and 18 more.
Related KudoZ points
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12
these facts can occur simultaneously, thus constituting a criminal offense
"Fattispecie" is translated as "elements of an offense," "corpus delicti", or "facts of the case" (www.leo.org).
Perhaps "these conditions can be fulfilled, thus ..."
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Note added at 56 mins (2013-01-15 19:13:53 GMT)
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Phil Goddard pointed out that "facts do not occur". Consequently I am altering my suggestion to "these facts can concur in certain cases, thus constituting a criminal offense" Or else use "arise" instead of "occur".
Perhaps "these conditions can be fulfilled, thus ..."
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Note added at 56 mins (2013-01-15 19:13:53 GMT)
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Phil Goddard pointed out that "facts do not occur". Consequently I am altering my suggestion to "these facts can concur in certain cases, thus constituting a criminal offense" Or else use "arise" instead of "occur".
Peer comment(s):
| neutral |
philgoddard
: Facts don't occur.
22 mins
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Granted. Replace "occur" with "arise"
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