Jan 5, 2012 19:56
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French term
ce n'est pas mettre la vie en équation, mais en adéquation
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I doubt there is a published translation of this piece of wisdom. Can anybody come up with something equally pithy? I usually love this sort of thing!
"Ne pas oublier que l’économie est avant tout à la croisée de sciences humaines (sociologie, psychologie, etc …) et que les modèles quantitatifs n’en sont qu’une tentative d’explication. Ce sont les comportements qui sont traduits dans les modèles et non les modèles qui conditionnent les comportements. Delatour, ce jeune philosophe le décrit fort bien lorsqu’il dit que « vivre ensemble ce n’est pas mettre la vie en équation, mais en adéquation ».
"Ne pas oublier que l’économie est avant tout à la croisée de sciences humaines (sociologie, psychologie, etc …) et que les modèles quantitatifs n’en sont qu’une tentative d’explication. Ce sont les comportements qui sont traduits dans les modèles et non les modèles qui conditionnent les comportements. Delatour, ce jeune philosophe le décrit fort bien lorsqu’il dit que « vivre ensemble ce n’est pas mettre la vie en équation, mais en adéquation ».
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is a matter not of equations but of approximations
Keep the word 'equation' and settle for a rhyme. It's about forgoing the exact for the close enough.
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See also http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theory_of_the_second_best ;-)
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être en équation = be equal to
être en adéquation = be a match for
exact vs. good enough
A translating maxim? That too.
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A good place for some adequation here ("adequation n. 4. A semantic process whereby the meaning of a word or phrase changes under the influence of the type of context in which it typically occurs.").
As kashew was suggesting. ;-)
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See also http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theory_of_the_second_best ;-)
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être en équation = be equal to
être en adéquation = be a match for
exact vs. good enough
A translating maxim? That too.
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A good place for some adequation here ("adequation n. 4. A semantic process whereby the meaning of a word or phrase changes under the influence of the type of context in which it typically occurs.").
As kashew was suggesting. ;-)
Note from asker:
| your note sounds like a translating maxim! btw your link drew a blank |
| me too, it sums up pretty well my reading of it (i.e. it's a question of a good match rather than a perfect fit) |
| so you go more for my own interpretation above - a good match rather than an exact fit ? |
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cc in nyc
: I like this one more and more.
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transcimed
: Believe me, I don't want to argue too much, but approximation is not appropriate here. Etre en adéquation = being in good match with other people = vivre ensemble = in adequacy with others
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Care to explain "in adequacy with"?
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Paul Reeve
: This translation may be appealing, but it's wrong in more than one way. Wrong translation for "adéquation", wrong contrast with the bit about equations.
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Give us the right translation, please, explaining how this one is wrong.:-)
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fitting in with the world, not making the world fit in with us
I think it's something along these lines: in other words, you can't argue with reality, so you might as well try and live with it and understand it. It's a bit like the idea that dictionaries should describe, not prescribe.
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living together is not a matter of imposing models but
of seeking harmony
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'Life is not about making us equal, it is about finding concordance'
Because:...
Adequation
1. The act of equalizing; act or result of making adequate; an equivalent. 3 synonyms = accord, adaptation, concordance.
Equation
1. The state of being equal.
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or 'living together is not about making us equal, but about finding concordance'
Adequation
1. The act of equalizing; act or result of making adequate; an equivalent. 3 synonyms = accord, adaptation, concordance.
Equation
1. The state of being equal.
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or 'living together is not about making us equal, but about finding concordance'
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not about harmonizing formulas, but rather about formalizing harmony
That's my try at following kashew's suggestion.
Or, alternately, "not a matter of... , but rather a matter of... "
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On second thought:
it's not about harmonizing formulas, but rather about formalizing harmonies
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Sorry, third thought:
it's not about harmonizing formulas, but rather about formulating harmonies
(sigh)
Or, alternately, "not a matter of... , but rather a matter of... "
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On second thought:
it's not about harmonizing formulas, but rather about formalizing harmonies
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Sorry, third thought:
it's not about harmonizing formulas, but rather about formulating harmonies
(sigh)
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is not modeling life with equations but achieving adequacy
living together is not modeling life with equations but achieving adequacy
Harmony sounds too optimistic compared to adequacy
Harmony sounds too optimistic compared to adequacy
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it's not a matter of turning life into a set of formulas, but rather achieving harmony
another try
it's not a matter of making life a set of formulas, but rather, achieving harmony
it's not a matter of making life a set of formulas, but rather, achieving harmony
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living together is about harmonisation, not equations
Hello,
Might that work?
You can't expect to make a mathematical formula out of living together (magical forumula: this + that - those/these = happiness; the goal is to just top learn how to cohabitate in harmony).
I was trying to plug life into an equation that doesn't exist. I was creating my own anxiety and disfunction and blaming it on my circumstances.
http://thethreedsddd.blogspot.com/2011/04/life-is-not-equati...
I hope this helps.
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Trying to keep a little rhyming in there as is in the French. LOL.
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Perhaps I'd rather say:
Living together is about life in harmonisation, not equations.
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I do not think that "harmonisation" is too strong here.
You might also say "Living together is not about making life into equation but a compatible situation" (you can't try to obtain happiness or good cohabitation situation with a magical mathematical equation).
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In other words, good cohabitation doesn't come from mathematical formulas from models etc but simply compability.
"Living together is not about turning life into an equation but a compatible situation"
Might that work?
You can't expect to make a mathematical formula out of living together (magical forumula: this + that - those/these = happiness; the goal is to just top learn how to cohabitate in harmony).
I was trying to plug life into an equation that doesn't exist. I was creating my own anxiety and disfunction and blaming it on my circumstances.
http://thethreedsddd.blogspot.com/2011/04/life-is-not-equati...
I hope this helps.
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Trying to keep a little rhyming in there as is in the French. LOL.
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Perhaps I'd rather say:
Living together is about life in harmonisation, not equations.
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I do not think that "harmonisation" is too strong here.
You might also say "Living together is not about making life into equation but a compatible situation" (you can't try to obtain happiness or good cohabitation situation with a magical mathematical equation).
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In other words, good cohabitation doesn't come from mathematical formulas from models etc but simply compability.
"Living together is not about turning life into an equation but a compatible situation"
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