Glossary entry (derived from question below)
German term or phrase:
Montage
English translation:
Typesetting/photocomposition
Added to glossary by
John O'Brien
Jun 21, 2003 18:45
21 yrs ago
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German term
Montage
German to English
Tech/Engineering
Printing & Publishing
printing
Printing business cards:
In der Rechnung wird die "Montage von 100 angelieferten Namen" sowie das "Einfügen der 700 Namen auf der Vorderseite" in Rechnung gestellt.
This may well be a purely English native speaker question.
My Pons/Collins gives me:
a)(Typ) stripping
b) (Art, lit) montage, (film) editing.
I have tried to find out more about the concept of stripping in printing ut to no avail.
"Stripping of 100 names" does'nt sound quite right
Mounting is rather my inclination.
TIA
In der Rechnung wird die "Montage von 100 angelieferten Namen" sowie das "Einfügen der 700 Namen auf der Vorderseite" in Rechnung gestellt.
This may well be a purely English native speaker question.
My Pons/Collins gives me:
a)(Typ) stripping
b) (Art, lit) montage, (film) editing.
I have tried to find out more about the concept of stripping in printing ut to no avail.
"Stripping of 100 names" does'nt sound quite right
Mounting is rather my inclination.
TIA
Proposed translations
(English)
4 +1 | typesetting / photocomposition | William Stein |
4 | layout | Parrot |
3 +1 | stripping in | tramont (X) |
4 | Film/plate per 100 names ; Entering of 700 names | invguy |
Proposed translations
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Selected
typesetting / photocomposition
I think they're probably just using "Montage" as assembly, which in the printing industry would be equivalent to "typesetting" (or photocomposition if it's all done by computer)
4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer.
Comment: "Difficult pick this one.
Convinced by invguy's answer that "stripping in and out" was old technology, I rejected tramont's and Klaus Beyer's answer. Thanks anyway. "film/plate per names" is also a good answer. Thanks to invguy and especially for "entering" for "einfügen". "Layout" from Parrot was also good but full points go to William Stein.
Thanks again to everybody who contributed."
16 mins
layout
"Stripping" presumes there is already a typeset copy that has been photographed, and the film is ready to be stripped; i.e., laid out on a frame for offset printing.
Reference:
+1
17 mins
stripping in
Printers use the term 'stripping in' to mean insertion of typeset material in an existing layout. It is frequently seen on printer's estimates.
It is used where, for example, the film of an existing card, leaflet, etc, is adapted, by cutting and pasting strips of film onto it.
Whether this applies in your case is another matter. If the business card is being produced with 100 different variants, then 'stripping in 100 names supplied' would refer to adapting the layout for 100 different people. However, it's not clear from the context you supply, whether this is the case.
It is used where, for example, the film of an existing card, leaflet, etc, is adapted, by cutting and pasting strips of film onto it.
Whether this applies in your case is another matter. If the business card is being produced with 100 different variants, then 'stripping in 100 names supplied' would refer to adapting the layout for 100 different people. However, it's not clear from the context you supply, whether this is the case.
Peer comment(s):
agree |
gangels (X)
: correct. Worked as a stripper for 15 years. You can 'strip in' or 'strip out' something from a 'flat' (the base on which the film is mounted).
6 hrs
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5 hrs
Film/plate per 100 names ; Entering of 700 names
With printing business cards, the process is normally as follows:
Text (like individual names, telephones etc.) is usually restricted to only one of the printed colours. E.g. if it's a full-colour card, three of the colours are identical for all cards (therefore the printing plates remain the same for the whole order), and only the fourth plate (typically the black one) is changed for the different print batches.
To prepare the black plate, one needs to:
1) open the ready file and enter the different names/data (Einfügen) in the preset positions.
"Einfügen der 700 Namen auf der Vorderseite": This is likely to mean that there are 7 batches of business cards with identical design, but with different names (100 cards per printing sheet, where the sheet is probably 100x70 cm, as it holds exactly 100 standard-sized cards). The card is probably double-sided, hence "auf der Vorderseite"
2) Produce the black ink separations/films (through printing to an imagesetter) and use them to produce the black ink plates for each of the 7 batches.
Uhm... I'm a bit confused here. In pre-computer times this was indeed done by stripping (Montage) - a high-precision hand operation. Each card (or block of several cards) was on a separate piece of film, and these were pasted (taped) onto a transparent sheet in a way strictly matching the layout. However, nowadays no one wastes time to strip by hand - you just change the info in the file and print out the ready layout to a full-size, single film sheet. Maybe under "Montage" they include the price of the film (eventually - and plate) for each of the 7 batches? Normally there's nothing else to pay for...
"Montage" may have remained as an item from older times, still used in the accounting of that printing shop.
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References: I'm basically a graphic designer, working mainly for print :)
Text (like individual names, telephones etc.) is usually restricted to only one of the printed colours. E.g. if it's a full-colour card, three of the colours are identical for all cards (therefore the printing plates remain the same for the whole order), and only the fourth plate (typically the black one) is changed for the different print batches.
To prepare the black plate, one needs to:
1) open the ready file and enter the different names/data (Einfügen) in the preset positions.
"Einfügen der 700 Namen auf der Vorderseite": This is likely to mean that there are 7 batches of business cards with identical design, but with different names (100 cards per printing sheet, where the sheet is probably 100x70 cm, as it holds exactly 100 standard-sized cards). The card is probably double-sided, hence "auf der Vorderseite"
2) Produce the black ink separations/films (through printing to an imagesetter) and use them to produce the black ink plates for each of the 7 batches.
Uhm... I'm a bit confused here. In pre-computer times this was indeed done by stripping (Montage) - a high-precision hand operation. Each card (or block of several cards) was on a separate piece of film, and these were pasted (taped) onto a transparent sheet in a way strictly matching the layout. However, nowadays no one wastes time to strip by hand - you just change the info in the file and print out the ready layout to a full-size, single film sheet. Maybe under "Montage" they include the price of the film (eventually - and plate) for each of the 7 batches? Normally there's nothing else to pay for...
"Montage" may have remained as an item from older times, still used in the accounting of that printing shop.
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References: I'm basically a graphic designer, working mainly for print :)
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