Jun 13, 2011 11:22
13 yrs ago
French term
éternel dans sa conversation
French to English
Art/Literary
Art, Arts & Crafts, Painting
sculpture
"... la dualité de ce matériau (verre) : d’une extrême fragilité, il est pourtant éternel dans sa conversation."
Proposed translations
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Proposed translations
4 hrs
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ever-present in his discourse
Would that do? See my discussion post. This duality or tension seems to be the subject / leitmotif / recurring theme of the artist's work.
Note from asker:
Q: Good morning! Is it the artist's discourse or the object's discourse? Same thing? |
Peer comment(s):
neutral |
philgoddard
: This is nice, but it doesn't convey enough of a contrast with "fragilité".
2 hrs
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I don't that is what is being asked for and many of the answers here misunderstand the meaning.
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cc in nyc
: Oops, "il" refers to "le verre" – not to the artist. // Apparently we read "la dualité de ce matériau : d’une extrême fragilité, il est pourtant éternel dans sa conversation" differently. :)>- But of course it's up to kashew.
4 days
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oops, obviously you have not read the extended passage given by kashew in the discussion box. Does 'dans son travail' also refer to the glass in your reading, too? I agree we read the queried phrase differently. I am sorry you don't accept k's choice.
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4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer.
Comment: "Thanks to everyone!"
3 mins
eternal in what it portrays
Could conversation be what it portrays? Glass definitely does not 'speak' in English.
Note from asker:
Discours sounds better to me - it was a non-French writer. So, discourse in English now occurs to me. |
Peer comment(s):
neutral |
cc in nyc
: We probably need more context to explain the "conversation"
4 mins
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12 mins
portrays the same message
expresses the same message
16 mins
conducts an everlasting dialogue
As in, the "dialogue" that is created between the piece and the viewer is powerful, in contrast to the fragility of the glass, and never wanes; there are of course many different words you can use for "éternel", I suggest "everlasting" as I like the strong contrast with fragility...
+1
42 mins
speaks to us of eternity
extremely fragile, it nevertheless speaks to us of eternity
Just another option among many.
Just another option among many.
1 hr
it ceaselessly conveys the artist's message over the centuries
mostly because the colours do not fade out...
+2
18 mins
French term (edited):
il est pourtant éternel dans sa conversation
and yet it conveys an eternal message
One of many possibilities
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Note added at 7 hrs (2011-06-13 18:24:22 GMT)
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Maybe even better:
and yet it conveys a timeless messge
(with a nod to LaraBarnett)
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Note added at 7 hrs (2011-06-13 18:24:22 GMT)
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Maybe even better:
and yet it conveys a timeless messge
(with a nod to LaraBarnett)
+1
14 mins
offering a perpetual/timeless dialogue (with us)
This could be one of expressing this. I like "timeless" but I also provide an alternative.
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Note added at 16 mins (2011-06-13 11:38:38 GMT)
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Or even:
"It speaks to us in its timeless way."
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Note added at 1 day3 hrs (2011-06-14 14:47:51 GMT)
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Another variation:
"It's dialogue continues into perpetuity"
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Note added at 1 day3 hrs (2011-06-14 14:48:22 GMT)
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Or even:
"Its dialogue continues into timelessness"
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Note added at 16 mins (2011-06-13 11:38:38 GMT)
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Or even:
"It speaks to us in its timeless way."
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Note added at 1 day3 hrs (2011-06-14 14:47:51 GMT)
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Another variation:
"It's dialogue continues into perpetuity"
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Note added at 1 day3 hrs (2011-06-14 14:48:22 GMT)
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Or even:
"Its dialogue continues into timelessness"
Discussion
coversation = Manière de converser, de parler en conversant.