Glossary entry (derived from question below)
French term or phrase:
en justifier
English translation:
and prove thereof (provide proof thereof)
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French term
en justifier
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l'Ag propose d'autoriser la réalisation de x travaux sous reserve de:
- se conformer à la réglementation
- faire effectuer les travaux sous la surveillance d'un architecte à ses frais et en justifier
est-ce: and account for ou and provide/submit proof?
Merci
- se conformer à la réglementation
- faire effectuer les travaux sous la surveillance d'un architecte à ses frais et en justifier
est-ce: and account for ou and provide/submit proof?
Merci
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and prove thereof (provide proof thereof)
Il faudra fournir la preuve que les travaux ont été faits sous la surveillance de l'architecte (une mission particulière qui fait l'objet d'un contrat) et donner les justificatifs des dépenses (preuves des dépenses : honoraires de l'architecte et les tous les frais des travaux).
- Surveillance : la surveillance est exercée par l’entrepreneur sur les tâches exécutées par ses ouvriers, en vue d’assurer le respect des dispositions de sécurité et l’observation des règles de bonne maîtrise. Cette tâche peut être confiée à l’architecte à condition de convenir qu’elle fasse partie d’une mission supplémentaire comportant des honoraires complémentaires.
Justifier : ici, prove dans le sens de provide proof (Dahl's Law Dictionary)
Un choix de style d'utiliser l'un ou l'autre ...
- Surveillance : la surveillance est exercée par l’entrepreneur sur les tâches exécutées par ses ouvriers, en vue d’assurer le respect des dispositions de sécurité et l’observation des règles de bonne maîtrise. Cette tâche peut être confiée à l’architecte à condition de convenir qu’elle fasse partie d’une mission supplémentaire comportant des honoraires complémentaires.
Justifier : ici, prove dans le sens de provide proof (Dahl's Law Dictionary)
Un choix de style d'utiliser l'un ou l'autre ...
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SMcG (X)
: the context is a bit lacking, but I read it as provide proof of the architects expenses = à ses frais
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4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer.
Comment: "Merci à tous. J'ai finalement dit: and provide proof thereof"
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provide evidence thereof
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AllegroTrans
: "evidence" is more appropriate for legal purposes - this is just admin.
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philippe vandevivere
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and provide receipts/invoice thereof
il faut donner des justificatifs détaillant la nature des travaux et leur réalisation
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Jack Dunwell
: Yes. In audit terms "vouchers" but receipts/invoices makes good sense
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and account for them
the expenses that is.
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AllegroTrans
: no, it's not about accounting it's about producing the receipt/vouchers to prove the expenses were incurred // justifier = to substantiate, prove; account for = to remit, produce, pay into bank etc.
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When one "accounts for" expenses one is producing receipts to prove that expenses were incurred.//"to account for" is constantly used to mean "to produce proof of expenses" It does NOT mean to pay into a bank.
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Melissa McMahon
: there are various ways of responding the question, but I thought I'd second your claim that "to account for" is an entirely normal way of saying "to substantiate"
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Thank you very much.
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justified (building) costs/expenses
imo the work has to be cost-effective
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www.wellcome.ac.uk/Funding/Biomedical.../wtd004084.htm -
29 Sep 2008 ... Were Amorikot school building costs justified? Amref paid more money to ensure the new buildings at Amorikot school were of good quality and ...
www.guardian.co.uk/society/katineblog/2008/sep/.../educatio... -
Each project should be justified based on the criteria within one or more ... Building operating costs including utilities, maintenance, insurance, taxes, ...
128.151.57.101/admin/budget/capital_policy.html -
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Note added at 1 hr (2010-12-04 22:10:53 GMT)
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the architect ensures the building is within budget
Capacity building costs may be requested on grants that will be directly awarded to low- and ... administrative costs (e.g. grant management costs, .... Costs should be specified as far as possible, and justified in terms of requirement ...
www.wellcome.ac.uk/Funding/Biomedical.../wtd004084.htm -
29 Sep 2008 ... Were Amorikot school building costs justified? Amref paid more money to ensure the new buildings at Amorikot school were of good quality and ...
www.guardian.co.uk/society/katineblog/2008/sep/.../educatio... -
Each project should be justified based on the criteria within one or more ... Building operating costs including utilities, maintenance, insurance, taxes, ...
128.151.57.101/admin/budget/capital_policy.html -
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the architect ensures the building is within budget
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provide evidence of compliance
I agree with Bella Goldberg's explanation, but I feel that the English phrasing must be clearer about what is to be "justifié." In my opinion, it is the work, under the watchful eye of an architect, that must be demonstrated, not proof of the costs – though that may be specified... elsewhere.
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justify them
to carry out the works under the supervision of an architect as to its costs and justify them (giving proof as its execution as well as its costs)
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Note added at 13 hrs (2010-12-05 10:37:25 GMT)
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In order to explain in greater detail, I would like to add that an architect is appointed for a project for its design and execution. He is also responsible for checking the quality of its construction. he is expected to go through the bills submitted by the contractor and certify it for payment by the client. in this respect , he has to go through in great detail as to the acuracies of the bill submitted as regards the mesurement, unit rate and the cost. Keeping this in view, you can select the answer that suits best. This, I think, will help you to overcome the'ardue'.
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Note added at 13 hrs (2010-12-05 10:37:25 GMT)
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In order to explain in greater detail, I would like to add that an architect is appointed for a project for its design and execution. He is also responsible for checking the quality of its construction. he is expected to go through the bills submitted by the contractor and certify it for payment by the client. in this respect , he has to go through in great detail as to the acuracies of the bill submitted as regards the mesurement, unit rate and the cost. Keeping this in view, you can select the answer that suits best. This, I think, will help you to overcome the'ardue'.
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