Oct 28, 2010 19:07
13 yrs ago
Spanish term
iría declinando
Spanish to English
Art/Literary
Art, Arts & Crafts, Painting
Palma de Mallorca, sculpture
Un exhaustivo análisis a su producción de los últimos treinta años ***iría declinando*** las obsesiones de Forteza: el devastador paso del tiempo, la aceleración de la historia, la descomposición de un mundo, las tergiversaciones de la memoria, el ocaso de la cultura, el lenguaje de los signos, la dimensión estética de la poesía, la indiferencia al arte como síntoma de nuestro tiempo tecnocrático, el ser humano reducido a su desnudez existencial… y combinándolas (sus obsesiones) entre sí con extrema precisión hasta producir un cuadro, un tanto desolador, del mundo contemporáneo observado por un artista escéptico pero fiel a la épica del arte.
From a dialogue with a sculptor on various subjects related to Palma de Mallorca, public art, and urban development- at this point the author is describing the sculptor's own work.
UK Eng. Thanks in advance.
From a dialogue with a sculptor on various subjects related to Palma de Mallorca, public art, and urban development- at this point the author is describing the sculptor's own work.
UK Eng. Thanks in advance.
Proposed translations
(English)
3 +6 | clearly reflects the varying obsessions of Forteza |
Robert Forstag
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3 +2 | would reveal |
Wendy Cross
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4 | would be dwindling |
Leonardo Lamarche
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Proposed translations
+6
55 mins
Spanish term (edited):
iría declinando las obsesiones de Forteza
Selected
clearly reflects the varying obsessions of Forteza
Comments:
1.
I don't think that replication of the conditional tense is necessary here. No real "condition" (in the sense of "if-then") is being referred to here (i.e., the "exhaustive analysis" in question has obviously already been conducted;otherwise, the accompanying assertion would be impossible!).
2.
The metaphor here, in my reading, is to the *declination* of a noun, and thus to "variations on a theme" (the "theme" being, in this case, Forteza's obsessions).
3.
"Dwindling" doesn't fit here ("declinar" does not mean "decline" or "diminish" here) and "yield up an inflection" strikes me as opaque jargon that obscures rather than reveals meaning.
Suerte.
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Note added at 1 day17 mins (2010-10-29 19:24:30 GMT)
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Here is what spanishdict.com gives as one definition of "declinar":
5. To decline a word by various determinations. (Grammar)
Given this standing acceptable use of the verb, and given the context of the text in question, I stand by my original suggestion.
1.
I don't think that replication of the conditional tense is necessary here. No real "condition" (in the sense of "if-then") is being referred to here (i.e., the "exhaustive analysis" in question has obviously already been conducted;otherwise, the accompanying assertion would be impossible!).
2.
The metaphor here, in my reading, is to the *declination* of a noun, and thus to "variations on a theme" (the "theme" being, in this case, Forteza's obsessions).
3.
"Dwindling" doesn't fit here ("declinar" does not mean "decline" or "diminish" here) and "yield up an inflection" strikes me as opaque jargon that obscures rather than reveals meaning.
Suerte.
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Note added at 1 day17 mins (2010-10-29 19:24:30 GMT)
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Here is what spanishdict.com gives as one definition of "declinar":
5. To decline a word by various determinations. (Grammar)
Given this standing acceptable use of the verb, and given the context of the text in question, I stand by my original suggestion.
Note from asker:
For what it's worth, reading the disagrees above, I must be wrong too then, because I assumed that the sense of the phrase was something like this. Thanks. |
Peer comment(s):
agree |
Jennifer Levey
: Especially with your point 3.
16 mins
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Thank you, MM.
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agree |
philgoddard
: "Forteza's varying obsessions" might be better.
43 mins
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I agree. Thanks, Phil.
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agree |
claudia bagnardi
1 hr
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Gracias, Claudia. Mi mas sentido pesame por la muerte del Sr. Kirchner.
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agree |
liz askew
: After all the debate, now I do :)
1 hr
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Thanks so much, Liz. :)
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agree |
Colin Ryan (X)
: Mr. Forstag, it's an honour to see a capable and talented translator deal with a problem and then move on.
15 hrs
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Thank you, Ryan. :)
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agree |
Lydia De Jorge
1 day 3 hrs
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Thank you, Lydia.
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4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer.
Comment: "Selected automatically based on peer agreement."
6 mins
would be dwindling
Una sugerencia.
Peer comment(s):
neutral |
Andrew Bramhall
: dwindle means to decrease in number or effect.//Well, how would you work that into a translation of the sentence ?
2 mins
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yes, the effects on him by"del ocaso de la cultura, etc.
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+2
1 hr
would reveal
not as complicated as the Spanish might suggest
Peer comment(s):
agree |
liz askew
1 hr
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agree |
Colin Ryan (X)
: Lovely. Here's an example of use in context: "I am not only fascinated by what languages are, but also by what they have the potential to become, and the older I get the more their subtleties REVEAL themselves to me"
13 hrs
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