Apr 23, 2009 23:54
15 yrs ago
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French term
India
Satisfait ou remboursé
Native in: French (Variant: Standard-France) 
, English (Variant: UK)
Works in: French to English, English to French, English to Hindi, and 3 more.
larget
French to English
Tech/Engineering
Metallurgy / Casting
steel mills
Phrase in text
XXXX produit depuis 2002 des tôles à partir de largets*
Footnote:
*Larget : demi produit sous forme de plat, prêt à être laminé
I wish to add here that in spite of being one of the "founder members" of ProZ, it is only recently (meltdown crisis) that I have started participating actively. I find the experience very stimulating and appreciate sincerely the contribution of my senior colleagues who answer questions regularly.
XXXX produit depuis 2002 des tôles à partir de largets*
Footnote:
*Larget : demi produit sous forme de plat, prêt à être laminé
I wish to add here that in spite of being one of the "founder members" of ProZ, it is only recently (meltdown crisis) that I have started participating actively. I find the experience very stimulating and appreciate sincerely the contribution of my senior colleagues who answer questions regularly.
Proposed translations
(English)
| 4 +1 | billet |
Bourth (X)
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| 5 | sheet |
kashew
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| 4 | semi finished flat or slab |
mohanv
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| 3 | bottom plate |
swisstell
|
References
| larget |
Kim Metzger
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| further options |
Wendy Cummings
|
Proposed translations
+1
13 hrs
Selected
billet
At least that's what Ernst (how many people remember him these days?) says:
largetm (sidér, lam) / billet // ~ de longueur multiple (lam) / sheet bar multiple // ~ pour tôles / steel sheet billet, steel sheet mill bar
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Note added at 13 hrs (2009-04-24 13:37:20 GMT)
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LARGET - DEMI-PRODUIT sidérurgique de LAMINAGE, sous forme de barre plate à section RECTANGULAIRE (150-500 mm x 6-50 mm).
http://www.premiumorange.com/archives-autran/archives/lingui...
Billet
A solid SEMI-FINISHED round OR SQUARE product that has been hot worked by forging, ROLLING, or extrusion. An iron or steel billet has a MINIMUM WIDTH OR THICKNESS OF 1 1/2 IN. and the cross-sectional area varies from 2 1/4 to 36 sq. in. For nonferrous metals, it MAY ALSO BE A CASTING suitable for finished or semi-finished rolling or for extrusion
http://www.principalmetals.com/glossary/bdoc.htm
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Note added at 14 hrs (2009-04-24 13:54:31 GMT)
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It would in fact appear that "billet" is too general and that "larget" would be "sheet-bar":
SHEET BAR: larget m (métal), sheet billet: voir sheet bar.
books.google.com/books?isbn=2710809117...
The Sheet-Bar Mill
Thin sheets of iron or steel are rolled hot from bars about 8 inches wide known as SHEET-BARS. The sheet bars for this industry are rolled in the sheet-bar mill, not unlike the billet mill in Fig. 45, and the method of rolling them from the ingot or from the wrought-iron "pile" is similar to that mentioned for rolling rails. The ingot is rolled out into a long strip 8 inches wide and varying from 3/8 to 1 1/8 inches thick. This strip is cut into lengths of 30 feet for convenience in handling, and is shipped to the sheet mill, the work of which is described in the next chapter.
http://chestofbooks.com/crafts/mechanics/Mechanical-Processe...
A method for manufacturing an ultra-thin sheet steel comprising the steps of roughly rolling a steel billet into a SHEET BAR, but joining the sheet bar so ...
www.wipo.org/pctdb/en/wo.jsp?wo=1997033706
A device and a method for manufacturing a hot-rolled sheet steel, wherein a continuously cast slab is rough-rolled into a SHEET BAR by reducing a thickness ...
www.wipo.org/pctdb/en/wo.jsp?wo=2000053349
A mill used to reduce ingots to blooms, billets, slabs, SHEET-BAR etc., (See Semi-finished Steel). FINISHED STEEL Steel that is ready for the market without ...
www.falconaerospace.cc/metals_dictionary_search.php?search=...
FINISHED STEEL
Steel that is ready for the market without further work or treatment. Blooms, billets, slabs, SHEET BARS, and wire rods are termed ?semi finished." http://www.falconaerospace.cc/metals_dictionary_search.php?s...
BLOOM - (Slab, Billet, SHEET-BAR.) Semi-finished products, hot rolled from ingots. The chief differences are in their cross sectional areas in ratio of width to thickness, and in their intended use.
http://www.admiralsteel.com/pdf/catalog.pdf
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Note added at 20 hrs (2009-04-24 20:53:44 GMT)
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That Googlebooks ref should be (if it works this time)
http://books.google.com/books?id=tmKPXhfkzgMC&pg=PA490&lpg=P...
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Note added at 1 day10 hrs (2009-04-25 10:34:00 GMT)
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Don't know of a new version of Ernst. Personally I'm very wary of GDT. I don't actually use it, bar once in a blue moon, but if I did I'd be cross-referencing all the time. Same with Ernst: it's a good starting point to get research on the right track, but is not always spot on, as here, though it does have "sheet bar" in its offerings.
largetm (sidér, lam) / billet // ~ de longueur multiple (lam) / sheet bar multiple // ~ pour tôles / steel sheet billet, steel sheet mill bar
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Note added at 13 hrs (2009-04-24 13:37:20 GMT)
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LARGET - DEMI-PRODUIT sidérurgique de LAMINAGE, sous forme de barre plate à section RECTANGULAIRE (150-500 mm x 6-50 mm).
http://www.premiumorange.com/archives-autran/archives/lingui...
Billet
A solid SEMI-FINISHED round OR SQUARE product that has been hot worked by forging, ROLLING, or extrusion. An iron or steel billet has a MINIMUM WIDTH OR THICKNESS OF 1 1/2 IN. and the cross-sectional area varies from 2 1/4 to 36 sq. in. For nonferrous metals, it MAY ALSO BE A CASTING suitable for finished or semi-finished rolling or for extrusion
http://www.principalmetals.com/glossary/bdoc.htm
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Note added at 14 hrs (2009-04-24 13:54:31 GMT)
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It would in fact appear that "billet" is too general and that "larget" would be "sheet-bar":
SHEET BAR: larget m (métal), sheet billet: voir sheet bar.
books.google.com/books?isbn=2710809117...
The Sheet-Bar Mill
Thin sheets of iron or steel are rolled hot from bars about 8 inches wide known as SHEET-BARS. The sheet bars for this industry are rolled in the sheet-bar mill, not unlike the billet mill in Fig. 45, and the method of rolling them from the ingot or from the wrought-iron "pile" is similar to that mentioned for rolling rails. The ingot is rolled out into a long strip 8 inches wide and varying from 3/8 to 1 1/8 inches thick. This strip is cut into lengths of 30 feet for convenience in handling, and is shipped to the sheet mill, the work of which is described in the next chapter.
http://chestofbooks.com/crafts/mechanics/Mechanical-Processe...
A method for manufacturing an ultra-thin sheet steel comprising the steps of roughly rolling a steel billet into a SHEET BAR, but joining the sheet bar so ...
www.wipo.org/pctdb/en/wo.jsp?wo=1997033706
A device and a method for manufacturing a hot-rolled sheet steel, wherein a continuously cast slab is rough-rolled into a SHEET BAR by reducing a thickness ...
www.wipo.org/pctdb/en/wo.jsp?wo=2000053349
A mill used to reduce ingots to blooms, billets, slabs, SHEET-BAR etc., (See Semi-finished Steel). FINISHED STEEL Steel that is ready for the market without ...
www.falconaerospace.cc/metals_dictionary_search.php?search=...
FINISHED STEEL
Steel that is ready for the market without further work or treatment. Blooms, billets, slabs, SHEET BARS, and wire rods are termed ?semi finished." http://www.falconaerospace.cc/metals_dictionary_search.php?s...
BLOOM - (Slab, Billet, SHEET-BAR.) Semi-finished products, hot rolled from ingots. The chief differences are in their cross sectional areas in ratio of width to thickness, and in their intended use.
http://www.admiralsteel.com/pdf/catalog.pdf
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Note added at 20 hrs (2009-04-24 20:53:44 GMT)
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That Googlebooks ref should be (if it works this time)
http://books.google.com/books?id=tmKPXhfkzgMC&pg=PA490&lpg=P...
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Note added at 1 day10 hrs (2009-04-25 10:34:00 GMT)
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Don't know of a new version of Ernst. Personally I'm very wary of GDT. I don't actually use it, bar once in a blue moon, but if I did I'd be cross-referencing all the time. Same with Ernst: it's a good starting point to get research on the right track, but is not always spot on, as here, though it does have "sheet bar" in its offerings.
Note from asker:
| Thank you for this extensive research, cher Maître ! I have said sheet bar and have sent off the translation. In fact sheet bar is given several times in the GDT and there was no need to put up the question here. I was curious to see if someone with shopfloor experience can come up with a similar term used in English speaking countries. Yes, Ernst is very good, do you know if there is a new version around? |
4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer.
Comment: "I have said sheet bar, thanks to all persons who contributed their answers and comments"
20 mins
1 hr
semi finished flat or slab
semi finished flat or slab
8 hrs
sheet
*: explained further on, so this one-word translation is sufficient.
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Note added at 8 hrs (2009-04-24 08:06:22 GMT)
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To be rolled into even thinner sheets.
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Note added at 8 hrs (2009-04-24 08:06:22 GMT)
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To be rolled into even thinner sheets.
Reference comments
43 mins
Kim Metzger
Mexico
Mexico
Native in English
Mexico
Committed to Quality and Service
Native in: English (Variant: US) 
Works in: German to English
Reference:
larget
IATE offers "bottom plate" for "morceau de larget", but that wouldn't seem to fit your context.
1372 days
Wendy Cummings
United Kingdom
United Kingdom
Native in English
United Kingdom
The highest professional standards
Native in: English
Works in: Spanish to English, French to English
Reference:
further options
I have today come across the terms larget and brame and checked with the client (metallurgy sector), who has said their particular preferred terms are larget=slab and brame=flat bar (despite the fact their bilingual website seems to infer the other way round!).
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