Glossary entry

German term or phrase:

nüchtern

English translation:

sober

Added to glossary by Anne-Marie Grant (X)
Mar 24, 2009 15:39
15 yrs ago
German term

nüchternen

Non-PRO German to English Social Sciences History
I understand the general idea, but how would you translate "nüchternen" in this particular context? Thanks in advance.

"Nachdem er, wie so manches andere Unheil, seinen Ausgang in den Vereinigten Staaten von Amerika genommen hatte, fand er ausgerechnet im biederen, nüchternen England eine neue Heimstatt."
Proposed translations (English)
3 +6 sober
4 respectable
3 +1 demure / drab
3 plain jane (country like) England
3 -2 staid, laid-back
Change log

Mar 24, 2009 17:08: Kim Metzger changed "Field" from "Other" to "Social Sciences"

Mar 27, 2009 09:35: Anne-Marie Grant (X) Created KOG entry

Discussion

BrettMN (asker) Mar 25, 2009:
How would "stodgy" work as a translation for "nüchternen"? Too negative in its connotations? I don't want to stray from the writer's intent, but "stodgy" sets up a nice contrast between the two countries, and works well with the overall tone of the passage and the irony of this tradition flourishing in Britain.
BrettMN (asker) Mar 24, 2009:
The context: a spiritual tradition that became popular in England after its beginnings in the U.S.
BrigitteHilgner Mar 24, 2009:
With Dr. G.MD: What is this all about? Who is "er"? A human being or a dog or something else completely? How to make a sensible suggestion without any context?
Dr.G.MD (X) Mar 24, 2009:
So what is the specific context, Brett,....a biography, financial turmoil or....?
Please clarify.

Proposed translations

+6
32 mins
Selected

sober

..in England's sober respectability
Peer comment(s):

agree Helen Shiner : I think this is ideal since this is about spirituality. Not given to flights of fancy, etc.
33 mins
agree Dr.G.MD (X)
45 mins
agree Kitty Maerz : Yes, I think that fits the context best
1 hr
agree pme
1 hr
agree KARIN ISBELL : 'strictly rational' fits within this context as well
2 hrs
agree Harald Moelzer (medical-translator)
5 hrs
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6 mins

respectable

It is getting across the idea of "quiet, respectable England", suggesting 'lace curtains, village greens, sleepy and peaceful scenes withj the ploughman coming over the hill" etc. i.e. nothing much ever seems to happen; dull tranquility.
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+1
16 mins

demure / drab

Maybe more along the lines of

he settled of all places in respectable, demure England.

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Note added at 17 mins (2009-03-24 15:56:37 GMT)
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oh, I used "respectable" for "bieder" in this case...
Peer comment(s):

agree Ingeborg Gowans (X) : could work, but more context would have been helpful
6 mins
neutral Helen Shiner : I think demure would generally be said of a woman, not of a country.
48 mins
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33 mins
German term (edited): nüchternes England

plain jane (country like) England

Pittsburgh..isn't just a plain jane city like Atlanta or Denver....With the cheap living there, great architecture, walkable city, awesome neighborhoods, and great colleges Pittsburgh should be able to attract young people like most east coast cities do.
http://tinyurl.com/d455de
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-2
17 mins

staid, laid-back

would be an option

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Note added at 1 hr (2009-03-24 16:58:47 GMT)
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With Helen's explanation
Peer comment(s):

disagree Kim Metzger : Definitely not "laid-back"
1 hr
disagree mill2 : laid-back means the opposite of staid
17 hrs
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