Glossary entry (derived from question below)
English term or phrase:
local applicable law, custom or collective agreement
English answer:
'local' applies only to 'law'
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mediamatrix (X)
Mar 23, 2009 16:17
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English term
France
local applicable law, custom or collective agreement
Non-PRO
English
Bus/Financial
Human Resources
In an employee handbook defining employment/company rules.
There are plenty of sentencesending with " in compliance with local applicable law, custom or collective agreement."
"the duration [of the probationary period] will be dependant upon the duration of the contract, local applicable law, custom or collective agreement."
I'm not 100% sure whether "local applicable" define the 3 elements or only "legislation". Thanks in advance
There are plenty of sentencesending with " in compliance with local applicable law, custom or collective agreement."
"the duration [of the probationary period] will be dependant upon the duration of the contract, local applicable law, custom or collective agreement."
I'm not 100% sure whether "local applicable" define the 3 elements or only "legislation". Thanks in advance
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Jennifer Levey
Chile
Chile
Native in English
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English
Chile
Human-scale Globalization
Native in: English (Variant: British) 
Works in: Spanish to English, French to English, English to Spanish, and 2 more.
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'local' applies only to 'law'
'local' cannot properly apply to 'collective agreement', because such agreements are defined sectorially, not on a geographical basis.
If 'local' was intended to apply to 'applicable law' AND 'custom', then the phrase is poorly writen; it would have to be: 'local applicable law (no comma) OR custom, (comma) or collective agreement'.
By deduction, therefore, 'local' applies only to 'applicable law'.
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Note that 'local' might actually mean 'national', for example if these are the rules of a multinatinal company intended to be applied in a number of different countries.
If 'local' was intended to apply to 'applicable law' AND 'custom', then the phrase is poorly writen; it would have to be: 'local applicable law (no comma) OR custom, (comma) or collective agreement'.
By deduction, therefore, 'local' applies only to 'applicable law'.
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Note that 'local' might actually mean 'national', for example if these are the rules of a multinatinal company intended to be applied in a number of different countries.
3 KudoZ points awarded for this answer.
Comment: "Thank you all for your comments."
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3 mins
Yasutomo Kanazawa
Japan
Japan
Japan
Scientia est potentia
Native in: Japanese 
Works in: English to Japanese, German to Japanese, Italian to Japanese, and 3 more.
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defines the 3 elements
I would interpret the above phrase as local applicalble law, local applicable custom and local applicable collective agreement.
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jccantrell
: I would interpret it in this sense. The customs and collective bargaining agreements do not usually extend beyond country borders (and may be a lot smaller), so this phrase restricts all three elements.
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Charlesp
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Thank you Charles
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swanda
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Thank you swanda
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Pham Huu Phuoc
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Polangmar
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bonafide1313
: IMO this is logical, all the 3 elements must be local, as one applies EITHER local law (if this law provides for the issue) OR local custom (if there is no appl. law or collagr) OR local coll. agreement (which anyway is compliant with local law)
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Jean-Christophe Duc
France
France
Works in field
France
17 year experience in localisation.
Native in: French
Works in: English to French, French to English
... la loi, l'usage ou la convention collective en vigueur
Voire la pratique au lieu de l'usage
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usage dont les parties avaient connaissance ou étaient censées avoir connaissance
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usage dont les parties avaient connaissance ou étaient censées avoir connaissance
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Jennifer Levey
: This is an English-English question.
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rominessa
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voir explication ...
Local s'applique à law et à custom seulement !
Les lois et coutumes peuvent être locales et ce serait censé dans le texte source.
Mais il n'y a pas de limite géographique à "collective agreement".
J'avais l'impression que c'était customS ...
Ce qui aurait amené une suggestion différente.
Les lois et coutumes peuvent être locales et ce serait censé dans le texte source.
Mais il n'y a pas de limite géographique à "collective agreement".
J'avais l'impression que c'était customS ...
Ce qui aurait amené une suggestion différente.
Peer comment(s):
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Jennifer Levey
: This is an English-English question. And custom (singular) is correct in this context.
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Je sais bien. Je disais que la question est dabord apparue avecd customS et qu'elle a été rapidement corrigée par la suite.
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