Glossary entry

Spanish term or phrase:

Diseño vial en planta

English translation:

plan view of road/ street design

Added to glossary by exacto.nz
Mar 23, 2009 15:54
15 yrs ago
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Spanish term

Diseño vial en planta

Spanish to English Tech/Engineering Construction / Civil Engineering
Hola,

Sigo en mi traducción de la empresa de construcción.

Uno de los servicios es Ingeniería vial y el texto dice:

Realizamos estudios y diseño vial en planta, perfiles longitudinales y transversales, modelamiento, diseño de pavimento y señalética.

¿Cuál sería la forma correcta de traducir "en planta"?

Según me explicó el cliente se refiere al diseño vial que se hace para accesos e interior de plantas industriales.

Una ayudita please. Gracias.

Discussion

exacto.nz (asker) Mar 23, 2009:
I hope so too. You have no idea the headache I have with all this changes =(
eski Mar 23, 2009:
Thanks BM, let's hope the client "sticks to his guns" this time. :))
eski Mar 23, 2009:
...(longitudinal and transverse sections), the client has COMPLETELY changed the meaning of the text, and suddenly -the only type of drawing eliminated in the new text is "en planta" which was the original question, and necessary to develope sections. :))
Henry Hinds Mar 23, 2009:
Pues entonces no que queda más que retractar, pues dije peras y son manzanas, de modo que MPGS y Nikki han de tener la razón ante la rectificación ofrecida.
exacto.nz (asker) Mar 23, 2009:
Hi eski, nice hearing from you. I checked with the client and it is just as MPGS explained. Now it is easier to proceed. Thanks for your comment.
eski Mar 23, 2009:
Hi Bmtraducciones: I agree with MPGS. the text first offered refer to the typical drawings required to prepare road designs and studies: plan view (en planta) is the most basic of them all, without which you can hardly come up with the others...
exacto.nz (asker) Mar 23, 2009:
de plantas Hola Henry,

En la corrección que hizo del texto especifica que son diseños viales de planta y me explicó que son los planos que se realizan de las plantas y caminos.

La frase "accesos e interior de plantas industriales" estaba mal redactada. Qué terrible!!!
Henry Hinds Mar 23, 2009:
Bueno, supongo que si el cliente se refiere a "accesos e interior de plantas industriales", eso debe ser, en lo que nos enfocamos Lisa y un servidor, pero no así MPGS y Nikki.
exacto.nz (asker) Mar 23, 2009:
Corrección del texto Estimados todos,

El cliente revisó el texto y lo corrigió. Esta es la nueva versión por si les interesa. Muchas gracias a todos por ayudar a mis neuronas.

Trabajamos en estudios y diseños viales de plantas industriales y caminos: perfiles longitudinales y transversales, modelamiento,
diseño de pavimento y señalética.

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plan view of road/ street design

:)

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Creoque la 'aclaración' de tu cliente confunde más que aclara.
Una cosa son las 'plantas' industriales (buildings) y otra el diseño / dibujo en 'planta'[esto quiere decir que se ve como se vería desde un avión (cenitalmente)], por contraposición a las vistas ('alzados') y secciones 'laterales' [elevation view] (que es como si mirásemos horizontalmente desde el suelo). Ambas vistas permiten hacerse la idea espacial tridimensional.

:)


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... esas 'vistas laterales' engloban lo que en texto llaman 'perfiles longitudinales y transversales' son cecciones (cortes imaginarios) a lo largo o a lo ancho del vial.

:)

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Note added at 35 mins (2009-03-23 16:29:58 GMT)
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corrijo: secciones

ver
http://nisee.berkeley.edu/northridge/eeri_fig4.jpg
http://images.google.es/imgres?imgurl=http://nisee.berkeley....
http://www.bibliocad.com/cad/biblioteca/obras-viales-diques/...
http://www.bibliocad.com/cad/biblioteca/obras-viales-diques/...
http://www.fao.org/docrep/f3200s/f3200s18.gif

:)

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Asker: hablé con mi cliente y va a corregir el texto porque definitivamente es confuso. Gracias miles por la ayuda


Yo creo que el texto no es confuso; lo que puede confundir es la explicación "Según me explicó el cliente" ...

Glad to help

:)

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Note added at 5 days (2009-03-28 17:54:22 GMT) Post-grading
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gracias a tí, bmtraducciones Un saludo :)
Note from asker:
estoy totalmente de acuerdo contigo y estoy en la misma disyuntiva =( gracias por tu ayuda
hablé con mi cliente y va a corregir el texto porque definitivamente es confuso. Gracias miles por la ayuda.
Peer comment(s):

agree Eileen Banks
34 mins
thank you Eileen :)
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4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer. Comment: "muchas gracias MPGS y a todos los demás."
12 mins

In-plant traffic design

No pude encontrar referencia completa en Google, pero me parece muy válido. Gracias por el CONTEXTO, es bastante completo.
Note from asker:
Hola MR. CONTEXTO, jiji. Cuando hay contexto siempre lo incluyo para mayor claridad. Gracias por la ayuda.
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in-plant road layout design

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Page 2
3.0 Layout
The ***layout design**** of the Energy From Waste Plant has been designed to satisfy the needs of the intended occupier, and is based on a standard layout used in other, similar plants. It is intended to spread the traffic flow around the building, allowing access to all vital areas for
collection and delivery. The design responds to the physical constraints of the site, including the available access points and topography.
The internal layout of the plant is very specific, with little room for alteration, so the exact location of various pieces of machinery is dictated by the energy from waste process. To make sure that all occupants can access their respective areas, whether internally or externally, the ****road layout***, car parking and offices have been designed around the fixed plant, making sure that they form a complete, and integrated, system.
http://www.devon.gov.uk/graceroad-appendix2.pdf
Note from asker:
muchas gracias Lisa
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horizontal road design

I too don't think your client's explanation is very helpful. This is referring to the horizontal alignment of the road, as opposed to the vertical alignment (en alzado)

Tunnel and bridge sections are set by the definition of a horizontal road alignment (clothoid and spline supported) and a vertical alignment.
http://www.forum8.com/english/uc-win/ucwin-road-e1.htm

http://media.wiley.com/product_data/excerpt/49/04701381/0470...

http://www.infrastructure.gov.au/roads/safety/publications/1...

The design and construction of roads impacts on almost all sectors of society. The design of a safe and efficient road network requires an understanding of the planning systems, environmental issues, driver characteristics, traffic profiles and many other factors. The course introduces students to the concept of road location with particular emphasis on the design of the geometric elements of the road including horizontal and vertical alignments. The design will be examined from the context of rural road design, however some application to urban roads will be examined. Theory will be supported by the use of computer aided design and modelling packages.
http://www.usq.edu.au/course/specification/2009/CIV2701-S1-2...

http://http://books.google.co.uk/books?id=MrHriGdIbT0C&pg=PA...

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ROAD DESIGN
3.1 Horizontal and Vertical Alignment
Center line alignment influences haul cost, construction cost, and environmental cost (e.g., erosion, sedimentation). During the reconnaissance phase and pre-construction survey the preliminary center line has been established on the ground. During that phase basic decisions regarding horizontal and vertical alignment have already been made and their effects on haul, construction, and environmental costs. The road design is the phase where those "field" decisions are refined, finalized and documented.

3.1.1 Horizontal Alignment Considerations
The preferred method for locating low volume roads discussed in Section 2.3, the so called non-geometric or "free alignment" method, emphasizes the importance of adjusting the road alignment to the constraints imposed by the terrain. The main difference between this and conventional road design methods is that with the former method, the laying out and designing of the centerline offset is done in the field by the road locator while substantial horizontal offsets are often required with the latter method (Figure 25).

http://www.fao.org/docrep/006/t0099e/T0099e03.htm

http://www.vhb.com/mhdGuide/pdf/CH_4_a.pdf

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Hola, entonces al final el cliente quiere decir "diseño vial en plantas industriales"?

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Note added at 1 hr (2009-03-23 16:58:53 GMT)
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In that case I would suggest "industrial plant road design" (I wouldn't make it plural in English)
Note from asker:
hablé con mi cliente y va a corregir el texto porque definitivamente es confuso. Muchas gracias por tu ayuda Nikki y por la explicación.
Gracias Nikki por esa frase "industrial plant road design".
Peer comment(s):

agree tazdog (X) : yes, exactly
26 mins
Thanks, but the term to translate has now changed and my suggestion won't work anymore!
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Saludos :))
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