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Pneubetrieb
Sperren & Ausfälle
Sep 18, 2008 18:33
15 yrs ago
German term

Nationalspiel

German to English Other Sports / Fitness / Recreation Football / Soccer
Anzahl Nationalspiele

This is about statistics on important football/soccer players.
Proposed translations (English)
4 +6 international appearances
4 +4 number of caps
3 +3 number of games played with the national team
4 +1 international match
5 international cap
3 -1 game of the national team
3 -2 national game

Discussion

Bernd Runge Sep 19, 2008:
Es ist zwar der Nationalspieler in der Nationalelf, aber er absolviert Länderspiele.

Proposed translations

+6
1 hr
Selected

international appearances

As a column heading (no need to render "number of") I reckon this would fit the bill, but we'll see who agrees.

(Not sure why The Toronto Star is reporting on England v Croatia but that's the web for you)

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Note added at 1 hr (2008-09-18 19:39:11 GMT)
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Should have added that a cap is not always awarded for an international appearance so the cap doesn't necessarily fit, as it were.

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Note added at 1 hr (2008-09-18 19:53:02 GMT)
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http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2008/aug/18/englandfootba...

better ref for UK audience
Reference:

http://www.thestar.com/Sports/Soccer/article/497044

Peer comment(s):
agree Louise Gough : Yes, I like this - it's just what a commentator would say! Regarding caps, I've often wondered if players are actually awarded a cap as a memento, or if it really is just a figure of speech.
42 mins
agree Ian McGarry : This is also he most appropriate term if "caps" is too informal for you.
48 mins
agree Liliana Galiano
2 hrs
agree Claire Cox
4 hrs
agree Ulrike Kraemer
11 hrs
agree Bernhard Sulzer : the context is clear; I think this works best - it's the jargon used: http://www.rsssf.com/miscellaneous/akhmedov-intl.html
1 day 14 mins
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4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer. Comment: "Selected automatically based on peer agreement."
+3
2 mins

number of games played with the national team

Might be one way of stating it, the whole phrase that is.
Peer comment(s):
agree Bernhard Sulzer : or matches and "for" as another choice for a preposition, or: as a member of the national team
4 mins
neutral Lancashireman : One way of stating it indeed. But I have my doubts about the preposition 'with'. // Joe could be in for a mauling then.
49 mins
pretty standard in the USA, Joe plays with the Cubs.
agree Ian McGarry : This is much too long-winded, I'm afraid.
1 hr
What? You aren't paid by the word? :)
agree hazmatgerman (X) : I particularly like the "team" aspect, which to me is inherent to the source term.
11 hrs
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-2
4 mins

national game

-recherchiert-
Peer comment(s):
disagree Lancashireman : The ‘national game’ is one in which the natives of a country show the most interest. In the UK, it was traditionally cricket but this has now been usurped by football. In Germany, it was tennis when Becker and Graf were around. Not so sure now, though…
53 mins
disagree Ulrike Kraemer : Sorry, but Andrew is right. @Andrew: What about snooker? I read somewhere that there are more snooker players than football players in the UK ... ;-) // Added: It would be a good idea to let us know what exactly you have "recherchiert".
12 hrs
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-1
7 mins

game of the national team

I think so
Peer comment(s):
neutral Bernhard Sulzer : games/matches "with/for" the national team (from the player's point of view)
27 mins
disagree Lancashireman : Strangely, the ‘game of the national team’ may be golf, i.e. when they are not earning a fortune kicking a ball around, many of the top football players like to pass their time hitting a smaller version with sticks.
40 mins
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+1
15 mins

international match

...because if the national team are playing, chances are it will be against another country's national team!

In UK soccer terminology the term "cap" is also used to describe the number of times a player has played for his national team. So for example a player might be described as having 50 caps for England, meaning he has played for the English team 50 times.
Reference:

http://www.darrenbarefoot.com/archives/2004/06/soccer-terminology-caps.html

Peer comment(s):
agree Maureen Millington-Brodie : oops, louise, sorry, yours had not appeared when I started to type mine (slowly)
14 mins
neutral Bernhard Sulzer : but clubs play international matches too. Just a thought.
16 mins
agree Lancashireman : ‘Caps’ it is. Presumably, the reference to ‘soccer’ is for the benefit of American readers such as jcc or BS?
25 mins
disagree Ian McGarry : This doesn't sound right to me: the teams play the matches, individuals make "appearances" in those matches. I think this would be wrong.
1 hr
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+4
19 mins

number of caps

this is the idomatic GB version
Peer comment(s):
agree Louise Gough : Great minds...!
2 mins
agree Geoff Browne (X) : I would definitely go with "number of caps" if the audience is British rather than North American. This is idiomatic GB English and fits the bill perfectly. If the audience is from Canada or USA, I'm not so sure that the "caps" refence works.
1 hr
agree Ian McGarry : I agree entirely with Geoff!
1 hr
agree Jo Bennett : (But don't tell my son-in-law I'm pretending to be an expert on soccer terminology!)
12 hrs
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4 hrs

international cap

The number of times someone is chosen to play for his country.
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