Apr 18, 2008 07:47
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French term
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terre-plein
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I can see, from previous questions that "terre-plein" can relate to waterside quays. Is it possible that,for this riverside business, it might have a "central reservation" sort of context, borrowed from road traffic terminology . In other words a sort of Jetty? Anyone come across this at all please?
I can see, from previous questions that "terre-plein" can relate to waterside quays. Is it possible that,for this riverside business, it might have a "central reservation" sort of context, borrowed from road traffic terminology . In other words a sort of Jetty? Anyone come across this at all please?
Proposed translations
(English)
| 3 | jetty, landing-pier |
Graham macLachlan
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| 4 | embankment? |
Mary Carroll Richer LaFlèche
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| 4 | levee |
Euqinimod (X)
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| 4 | depends |
Bourth (X)
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| 3 | earth platform (of made-up ground) |
swanda
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| 2 +1 | flat area/surface |
Alain Pommet
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| 3 | sediment bar |
erickl
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| 2 | would say "bank" |
cjohnstone
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Proposed translations
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jetty, landing-pier
I think it could according to this definition:
TERRE-PLEIN, subst. masc.
Plate-forme, levée de terre soutenue généralement par une maçonnerie. "La Chambre de Commerce de Strasbourg a ouvert de larges bassins entre l'Ill et le Rhin. Ils offrent au déchargement 3 000 000 de mètres carrés de terre-pleins et 17 kilomètres de quais" (ALBITRECCIA, Gds moyens transp., 1931, p. 80).
Source: TLF
terre-plein, pl terres-pleins nm
1 (de bâtiment) platform;
2 (de route) central reservation GB, median strip US; (de rond-point) central island;
3 Mil terreplein.
Source: Oxford/Hachette
Jetty
1. A mole, pier, breakwater, etc., constructed at a harbour entrance or running out into the sea, a lake, a river, etc., esp. for protective or defensive purposes. Also, an outwork protecting a pier. LME.
b. A projecting part of a wharf; a landing-pier. LME.
Source: OED
TERRE-PLEIN, subst. masc.
Plate-forme, levée de terre soutenue généralement par une maçonnerie. "La Chambre de Commerce de Strasbourg a ouvert de larges bassins entre l'Ill et le Rhin. Ils offrent au déchargement 3 000 000 de mètres carrés de terre-pleins et 17 kilomètres de quais" (ALBITRECCIA, Gds moyens transp., 1931, p. 80).
Source: TLF
terre-plein, pl terres-pleins nm
1 (de bâtiment) platform;
2 (de route) central reservation GB, median strip US; (de rond-point) central island;
3 Mil terreplein.
Source: Oxford/Hachette
Jetty
1. A mole, pier, breakwater, etc., constructed at a harbour entrance or running out into the sea, a lake, a river, etc., esp. for protective or defensive purposes. Also, an outwork protecting a pier. LME.
b. A projecting part of a wharf; a landing-pier. LME.
Source: OED
Note from asker:
| Lovely, just the job, Thanks Graham |
4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer.
Comment: "This is precisely the situation (tho on a massive scale), of making cuttings, creating flat surfaces as quays, jetties or piers "
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would say "bank"
but bank implies both natural or man-made built up bank
Cannot see what central reservation has to do! It is mainly for roads or motorways!!! This being said, post a bit more info and maybe we'll get something better than my first idea
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Note added at 5 mins (2008-04-18 07:53:23 GMT)
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had not seen other questions!!
Cannot see what central reservation has to do! It is mainly for roads or motorways!!! This being said, post a bit more info and maybe we'll get something better than my first idea
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Note added at 5 mins (2008-04-18 07:53:23 GMT)
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had not seen other questions!!
13 mins
earth platform (of made-up ground)
another suggestion
Note from asker:
| Swanda! I've been unclear, please see note to Alain |
+1
14 mins
flat area/surface
Or maybe spelled terre-plain - meaning a flat area. It could mean a flat raised area. More context?
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Note added at 1 hr (2008-04-18 09:02:50 GMT)
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Well I think it is the 'quayside' area where the boats can come alongside artificially raised with stonework or concrete rather than a jetty.
Un alignement d’arbres de hautes tiges séparera les espaces de circulation du terre plein portuaire. Des dispositifs de contrôle d’accès au site portuaire, permettant de limiter le stationnement sur le quai seront mis en place. Des accès handicapés seront réalisés.
http://www.larepublique.com/news/archivestory.php/aid/5325/D...
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Note added at 1 hr (2008-04-18 09:02:50 GMT)
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Well I think it is the 'quayside' area where the boats can come alongside artificially raised with stonework or concrete rather than a jetty.
Un alignement d’arbres de hautes tiges séparera les espaces de circulation du terre plein portuaire. Des dispositifs de contrôle d’accès au site portuaire, permettant de limiter le stationnement sur le quai seront mis en place. Des accès handicapés seront réalisés.
http://www.larepublique.com/news/archivestory.php/aid/5325/D...
Note from asker:
| Alain, I'm trying to home in on the idea of a jetty; Whether anyone has come across this use for "terre-plein" |
Peer comment(s):
| agree |
Charles Hawtrey (X)
: I don't think it's a jetty, Jack; that's a stone, wooden or concrete construction proud of the edge. It seems just to be a flat slab, maybe slightly higher than surrounding earth, pb. of concrete. Hard-standing, maybe?
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Thanks Charles
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embankment?
that's what wordreference says anyway...
4 hrs
levee
I think it's the word used when referring to waterways. Besides, in French we use the same word "levée" to designate a river embankment. The OED gives the following definitions : " 1. a. An embankment to prevent the overflow of a river. b. Geol. A low broad ridge of water-laid sediment running along the side of a stream channel; also, any of various similar natural embankments, as those formed by mud flows or lava flows, or along a submarine channel. 2. A landing-place, pier, quay."
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depends
All depends on your project, of course. IME the term most frequently refers to storage yards, marshalling yards, logistics areas, container yard, hardstanding, etc. and/or the reclaimed (but as yet undeveloped) land on which these are situated, in the context of maritime infrastructures, but I HAVE encountered it, for maritime engineering again, for breakwaters (terre-plein de protection) and, more specifically, for an artificial reef. Neither of which you are like to have in your river, I suspect.
Dico-TP says:
terre-plein - Sol aménagé pour servir de base à une construction ou constituer une aire de service.
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Note added at 5 hrs (2008-04-18 13:02:48 GMT)
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You've given us the word. Can you show us how it is used, i.e. why you think it might be a jetty, etc?
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Note added at 15 hrs (2008-04-18 23:25:22 GMT)
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Whereabouts on the Seine? We could all see it on Géoportail.fr
Dico-TP says:
terre-plein - Sol aménagé pour servir de base à une construction ou constituer une aire de service.
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Note added at 5 hrs (2008-04-18 13:02:48 GMT)
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You've given us the word. Can you show us how it is used, i.e. why you think it might be a jetty, etc?
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Note added at 15 hrs (2008-04-18 23:25:22 GMT)
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Whereabouts on the Seine? We could all see it on Géoportail.fr
Note from asker:
| Yes, but I wonder about Moles. Or cuttings either side of a..... |
| Well, I was happily thinking about Hardstandings(tho' this is more in yr line of course),when I suddenly thought that it might be the cuttings made, like the Norfolk Broads, as this is on the Seine (logic?)on either side and then I see motorway central strip and think perhaps its the bit between 2 cuttings. A jetty'ish sort of thing |
21 hrs
sediment bar
would have to fit the context, is it natural or man-made?
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