Glossary entry (derived from question below)
German term or phrase:
ungeliebte Kinder
English translation:
orphaned ideas /orphaned issues
Added to glossary by
Eva Finkemeier
Mar 13, 2008 16:10
16 yrs ago
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German term
ungeliebte Kinder
German to English
Social Sciences
Idioms / Maxims / Sayings
X stellte heraus, dass es sich bei der Studienstrukturreform und Chancengleichheit um zwei gleich „ungeliebte Kinder“ handle. Dennoch verwies sie darauf, dass gerade die „Verkoppelung“ von zwei vernachlässigten Herausforderungen der Hochschulreform unter folgenden Aspekten innovativ ist.
The context is a talk on higher education reform and gender equality. I don't think we say "unloved children" in this metaphorical way in English do we? Would appreciate any suggestions. Target is BE.
The context is a talk on higher education reform and gender equality. I don't think we say "unloved children" in this metaphorical way in English do we? Would appreciate any suggestions. Target is BE.
Proposed translations
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Change log
Mar 16, 2008 16:41: Steffen Walter changed "Field (specific)" from "General / Conversation / Greetings / Letters" to "Idioms / Maxims / Sayings"
Mar 27, 2008 17:19: Eva Finkemeier Created KOG entry
Proposed translations
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Eva Finkemeier
United States
United States
Native in German
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English
United States
Prose, poetry, biographies, subtitles
Native in: English 
, German
Works in: German to English, English to German, Norwegian to English, and 1 more.
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orphaned ideas /orphaned issues
Am not sure if this works, but there are definitely quite a few hits on google with both expressions, most of whom (especially the "issues") one appear like cases, where no attention had been paid to certain important developments.
4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer.
Comment: "I've decided to go simply with "orphans" as this gets at the unpopular, neglected aspect, which "thorny issues" does not, IMO, sorry Jonathan. I also love redheaded stepchildren but it's perhaps a bit too...colorful for my context. Thanks very much to everyone."
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unpopular related ideas
umschreiben -> verbindung aufzeigen
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Ken McKerrow
: na sehr sachlich, allerdings!
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thx
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CMJ_Trans (X)
: where do you get "related" from?
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in my opinion the "kinder" refers to the fact that the ideas are "gekoppelt", am trying to get this across somehow
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Ken McKerrow
Canada
Canada
Native in English
Canada
German>English for Law, IP and Business
Native in: English 
Works in: German to English, French to English
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8
marginalised children
marginalised generally used to indicate some kind of lack of attention to
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Note added at 8 mins (2008-03-13 16:18:38 GMT)
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oder ferner: neglected areas
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Note added at 8 mins (2008-03-13 16:18:38 GMT)
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oder ferner: neglected areas
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Elisabeth Moser
United States
United States
Native in German
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English
United States
Native in: German , English
Works in: English to German, German to English, French to English, and 3 more.
two equally unpopular subjects
just another suggestion
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uli1
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Thanks, Lis
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Trudy Peters
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Thanks, Lis
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Cathrin Cordes
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Thanks, Lis
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Jonathan MacKerron
Native in English
Retired as of Jan 2019!
Native in: English
Works in: German to English, French to English
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63
two equally thorny issues
another approach
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Elisabeth Moser
: I like the thorny part
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don't we all??
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Rebecca Garber
: Nice, esp. the thorny part.
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indeed a word that too often gets neglected nowadays
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Hilary Davies Shelby
: i really like this actually - and am laughing at your response to Elisabeth ;-)
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hey, is it my fault she's into thorns...?
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Julia Lipeles
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Nicole Schnell
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PoveyTrans (X)
: nice
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Bernhard Sulzer
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Trudy Peters
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Colin Rowe
: Deliciously prickly!
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Manjula Dias-Hargarter, Ph.D. (X)
: as if you need any more agrees, but - nice work, Jonathan!
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Edith Kelly
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GeorginaW (X)
: spot on!
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Hilary Davies Shelby
United States
United States
Native in English
United States
German and "Geek" to English!
Native in: English
Works in: German to English, English
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20
red-headed stepchildren
A "red-headed stepchild" is a phrase used (mainly in the US, though) for something/someone that is unpopular or neglected. It's almost like "black sheep", but not quite.
Here's a definition: http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=red-headed st...
And here are a few examples:
Education in Texas: The Red-Headed Stepchild
The Red-Headed Stepchild. Of the 4 schools in our little Texas district, my school is definitely the red-headed step-child of the district. ...
educationintexas.blogspot.com/2006/09/red-headed-stepchild.html
Is Crochet the Red-Headed Stepchild of Knitting? · Crochet ...
YEP! Yarn shops are notorious for snubbing crocheters. Books that contain both knit and crochet are dominated by knit. Many ready to wear items that are ...
crochet.craftgossip.com/is-crochet-the-red-headed-stepchild-of-knitting/2007/03/30/
Blogging on Water: Diarrhea: the unloved red-headed stepchild of ...
Diarrhea: the unloved red-headed stepchild of the global health debate. We all know that 1.1 billion people do not have access to safe drinking water around ...
bloggingonwater.blogspot.com/2007/06/diarrhea-unloved-red-headed-stepchild.html
Javascript: The red-headed stepchild of web development.
Javascript: The red-headed stepchild of web development. RaspenJho. (Senior Engineer) Posted 8/20/2007 Comments (0) | Trackbacks (0) ...
blogs.ittoolbox.com/.../thinkclients/archives/javascript-the-redheaded-stepchild-of-web-development-18471
Doug Johnson's Blue Skunk Blog - Blue Skunk Blog - ALA's red ...
Once again ALA has demonstrated that school libraries are truly the red-headed stepchild of the library world. I appreciate your re-working of American ...
doug-johnson.squarespace.com/blue-skunk-blog/2007/3/12/alas-red-headed-stepchild-once-again.html
Here's a definition: http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=red-headed st...
And here are a few examples:
Education in Texas: The Red-Headed Stepchild
The Red-Headed Stepchild. Of the 4 schools in our little Texas district, my school is definitely the red-headed step-child of the district. ...
educationintexas.blogspot.com/2006/09/red-headed-stepchild.html
Is Crochet the Red-Headed Stepchild of Knitting? · Crochet ...
YEP! Yarn shops are notorious for snubbing crocheters. Books that contain both knit and crochet are dominated by knit. Many ready to wear items that are ...
crochet.craftgossip.com/is-crochet-the-red-headed-stepchild-of-knitting/2007/03/30/
Blogging on Water: Diarrhea: the unloved red-headed stepchild of ...
Diarrhea: the unloved red-headed stepchild of the global health debate. We all know that 1.1 billion people do not have access to safe drinking water around ...
bloggingonwater.blogspot.com/2007/06/diarrhea-unloved-red-headed-stepchild.html
Javascript: The red-headed stepchild of web development.
Javascript: The red-headed stepchild of web development. RaspenJho. (Senior Engineer) Posted 8/20/2007 Comments (0) | Trackbacks (0) ...
blogs.ittoolbox.com/.../thinkclients/archives/javascript-the-redheaded-stepchild-of-web-development-18471
Doug Johnson's Blue Skunk Blog - Blue Skunk Blog - ALA's red ...
Once again ALA has demonstrated that school libraries are truly the red-headed stepchild of the library world. I appreciate your re-working of American ...
doug-johnson.squarespace.com/blue-skunk-blog/2007/3/12/alas-red-headed-stepchild-once-again.html
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Jonathan MacKerron
: but you probably have to come from Texas to understand what it means...; not to say that it isn't a great expression!
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LOL - probably true - I used to live there ;-)
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Eva Finkemeier
: I love that! Didn't really know that one before. And I have red hair...;-)
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i think it's a terrific phrase ;-)
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jccantrell
: Not just Texas, understood in the USA by individuals of, ahem, a certain age, but to reach a wider audience, I would probably explain it as other suggestions do. But this was my first thought. --XX-- I heard it as "beaten like a red..."
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thanks very much! I wonder if saying "are treated as the red-headed stepchildren of..." would imply the sense of unpopularity and neglect to someone not familiar with the expression?
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NGK
: was my first impulse too
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thank you!
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