Glossary entry (derived from question below)
Russian term or phrase:
нештатное аварийно-спасательное формирование (НАСФ)
English translation:
volunteer emergency response team
Added to glossary by
Andrey Belonogov
Mar 12, 2008 23:03
16 yrs ago
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Russian term
Russian Federation
Works in: Russian to English, English to Russian
НАСФ: нештатное аварийно-спасательное формирование
Russian to English
Social Sciences
Government / Politics
В соответствии с законодательством Российской Федерации аварийно-спасательные службы/формирования могут создаваться:
на постоянной штатной основе - профессиональные аварийно-спасательные службы/формирования;
на нештатной основе - нештатные аварийно-спасательные формирования;
на общественных началах - общественные аварийно-спасательные формирования.
Как в таком контексте перевести "нештатные" и есть ли в англоговорящем мире подобные НАСФу формирования?
на постоянной штатной основе - профессиональные аварийно-спасательные службы/формирования;
на нештатной основе - нештатные аварийно-спасательные формирования;
на общественных началах - общественные аварийно-спасательные формирования.
Как в таком контексте перевести "нештатные" и есть ли в англоговорящем мире подобные НАСФу формирования?
Proposed translations
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| 4 +3 | NERT: Neighborhood Emergency Response Team |
Mark Berelekhis
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| 4 -1 | non-standard rescue unit |
Vladimir Chumak
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| 3 | Volunteer Rescue Team |
The Misha
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Mar 12, 2008 23:03: changed "Kudoz queue" from "In queue" to "Public"
Mar 20, 2008 23:15: Andrey Belonogov Created KOG entry
Apr 3, 2008 23:43: Andrey Belonogov changed "Edited KOG entry" from "<a href="/profile/819982">Andrey Belonogov's</a> old entry - "нештатное аварийно-спасательное формирование"" to ""volunteer emergency response team""
Jul 29, 2009 01:52: Mark Berelekhis changed "Field" from "Other" to "Social Sciences"
Proposed translations
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Mark Berelekhis
United States
United States
Native in Russian
&
English
Works in field
United States
Exemplary quality, truly bilingual
Native in: Russian 
, English
Works in: Russian to English, English to Russian, English
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NERT: Neighborhood Emergency Response Team
http://www.multitran.ru/c/m.exe?t=4202011_1_2
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Community_Emergency_Response_Te...
Also about 10k other hits on the web, including government sites.
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Note added at 4 hrs (2008-03-13 03:34:25 GMT)
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Alright, since these are company-related, I'd suggest 'volunteer emergency response team.' 'Emergency response team' is already a coined term, no reason to reinvent it, and adding 'volunteer' to it does the trick in your context, IMO.
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Community_Emergency_Response_Te...
Also about 10k other hits on the web, including government sites.
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Note added at 4 hrs (2008-03-13 03:34:25 GMT)
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Alright, since these are company-related, I'd suggest 'volunteer emergency response team.' 'Emergency response team' is already a coined term, no reason to reinvent it, and adding 'volunteer' to it does the trick in your context, IMO.
Peer comment(s):
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Olga Cartlidge
: I prefer Community rather than Neighbourhood ( Cf Community Support Officer, just for argument s sake).
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Thank you, Olga. I'm essentially fine with either.
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Jack Doughty
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Thank you, Jack.
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The Misha
: Mark, yours is a poet's response all right. It would fit great if you were actually writing the original document, I am not so sure about the translation though. Sounds good though.
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Thanks, Misha, I think :) Asker's additional context does suggest this is something else.
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Comment: "thanks!"
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Vladimir Chumak
Australia
Australia
Native in Russian
Australia
Age quod agis
Native in: Ukrainian 
, Russian
Works in: English to Russian, English to Ukrainian, Russian, and 3 more.
non-standard rescue unit
A standard rescue unit responds. with 4 firefighters. Included on. the vehicle are a thermal. imaging camera, hydraulic. cutting and spreading ...
www.esb.act.gov.au/usaraa/pdf\15.pdf
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In addition to standard motor lifeboats and utility boats, SAR stations have 293 non-standard rescue boats including rigid hull inflatable of various sizes ...
www.gulfcoastmariners.org/research reports/HTML/R-305/r305r...
www.esb.act.gov.au/usaraa/pdf\15.pdf
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In addition to standard motor lifeboats and utility boats, SAR stations have 293 non-standard rescue boats including rigid hull inflatable of various sizes ...
www.gulfcoastmariners.org/research reports/HTML/R-305/r305r...
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Volunteer Rescue Team
Poetics aside, this is what they would probably call it in the US.
Discussion
и ещё... думаю, что наши законодатели писали "нештатный", а думали о "внештатном":
ВНЕШТАТНЫЙ - Не состоящий в штате (постоянном составе сотрудников учреждения)
НЕШТАТНЫЙ - Не предусмотренный по штату (положению о числе сотрудников и должностей учреждения, их функциях)