Glossary entry

English term or phrase:

Uso de "if"

Spanish translation:

Explanation below

Added to glossary by Ana Brassara
Mar 21, 2007 20:21
17 yrs ago
English term

Uso de "if"

English to Spanish Art/Literary Linguistics Conditionals
Agradecería que alguien me explicara la diferencia de uso de las siguientes situaciones hipotéticas con "if" y la forma en que estas diferencias afectarían la traducción:

If you ***were to have*** a legal dispute, what would happen?

If you ***were to have*** walked into a health food store twenty years ago, about the only thing you would have probably found were protein powders, a few herbs, and some vitamins.

En contraste con:

If you ***had*** a legal dispute, what would happen?

If you ***had*** walked into a health food store twenty years ago, about the only thing you would have probably found were protein powders, a few herbs, and some vitamins.

Discussion

Olivia Bravo Mar 22, 2007:
Form: if + Simple Past, Conditional I (= would + Infinitive)

Example: If I found her address, I would send her an invitation."

En conclusión, ambas son hipotéticas y condicionales, y la diferencia básica está en la conjugación, pero con mismo sentido.
Olivia Bravo Mar 22, 2007:
"'Were to' can be used in the future to emphasize that the Conditional form is extremely unlikely or unthinkably horrible."
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"Conditional Sentence Type 2

→ It is possible but very unlikely, that the condition will be fulfilled."
Olivia Bravo Mar 22, 2007:
Complementando la respuesta que di a carmen haydee, en el ejemplo del "legal dispute", ambos casos son hipotéticos y condicionales. Tomando el ejemplo de la misma Ana:
CarmenHaydee Mar 22, 2007:
Wil, no te stoy preguntando solo quiero anadir a lo que dice Mediamatrix en su Agree con Ana. Muy correcto, Mediamatrix, lo que dices de la clausula si en el subjuntivo no es lo mismo q. en el modo condicional. El tono es diferente y la conjugacion tamb

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Explanation below

"Were to"

"Were to" in the Present

FORM
[ If... were to + VERB ...,...]

USE
"Were to" can be used in the present to emphasize that the Conditional form is extremely unlikely or unthinkably horrible. Notice that this special form is only used in the "If" Clause.

EXAMPLES:

If she were to be rich, she would be horribly obnoxious.
(It is very unlikely that she would be rich.)

If I were to have no friends, who would I spend my time with.
(Having no friends is a horrible thought.)

If Nathan were to be my boss, this job would be intolerable.
(Nathan's being my boss is a horrible concept.)


"Were to" in the Future

FORM
[ If... were to + VERB...,...]

USE
"Were to" can be used in the future to emphasize that the Conditional form is extremely unlikely or unthinkably horrible. Notice that this special form is only used in the "If" Clause

EXAMPLES:

If I were to lose my job, I would probably not find a new one quickly.
(Loosing my job would be terrible.)

If he were to fail his driving test, he would have to take it again.
(He is not likely to fail his driving test.)

If Sarah were to show up late to the birthday party, it would ruin the surprise.
(Sarah will surely come on time.)


"Were to" in the Past

FORM
[ If... were to have + PAST PARTICIPLE...,...]

USE
"Were to" can be used in the past to emphasize that the Conditional form is extremely unlikely or unthinkably horrible. Notice that this special form is only used in the "If" Clause.

EXAMPLES:

If the fire were to have destroyed the building, it would have been a tragic cultural loss.
(The thought of such a loss is too horrible to consider.)

If the dam were to have burst, the entire town would have been destroyed.
(Such destruction is too horrible to consider.)

If Sarah were to have failed the final test, she would have lost her scholarship.
(She is an excellent student, and it is very unlikely that she would have failed the test.)

http://www.englishpage.com/conditional/wereto.html

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Note added at 28 mins (2007-03-21 20:50:43 GMT)
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If clause type II

Use

Conditional Sentences Type II refer to situations in the present. An action could happen if the present situation were different. I don't really expect the situation to change, however. I just imagine „what would happen if …“

Example: If I found her address, I would send her an invitation.

I would like to send an invitation to a friend. I have looked everywhere for her address, but I cannot find it. So now I think it is rather unlikely that I will eventually find her address.

Example: If John had the money, he would buy a Ferrari.

I know John very well and I know that he doesn't have much money, but he loves Ferraris. He would like to own a Ferrari (in his dreams). But I think it is very unlikely that he will have the money to buy one in the near future.

Conditional Sentence Type 2

→ It is possible but very unlikely, that the condition will be fulfilled.

Form: if + Simple Past, Conditional I (= would + Infinitive)

Example: If I found her address, I would send her an invitation.

http://www.ego4u.com/en/cram-up/grammar/conditional-sentence...

Peer comment(s):

agree Jennifer Levey : Excellent explanation and examples! The 'were to' form is in effect an English subjunctive, not a conditional, although many people claim that there is no subjunctive in English.
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Gracias por el comentario.
agree Mariana T. Buttermilch : Great explanation!
49 mins
¡Gracias!
agree Kristina Kolic : Never seen such a good and thorough explanation!
1 hr
¡Muchas gracias!
neutral CarmenHaydee : Mediamatrix, que mucha razon tienes!! Saludos a todas!
4 hrs
Gracias, pero si escribís acá mediamatrix no va a leer tu comentario, a menos que se meta de nuevo en esta pregunta.
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English term (edited): uso de \"if\"

Implica una diferencia en la conjugación, solamente (y en este caso).

1.-"***Si te vieras*** en la necesidad de entrar en un litigio..."
2.-"***De haber entrado*** a un negocio de comida saludable, lo único que tal vez habrías encontrado..."
3.-"¿Qué pasaría si ***tuvieras que entrar*** en un litigio?"
4.-"***Si hubieras*** entrado a un negocio de comida saludable, ..."

Es cuestión simplemente de la conjugación que se da en cada caso. Pero las dos primeras de arriba significan básicamente lo mismo que las dos de abajo.

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Note added at 8 minutos (2007-03-21 20:30:08 GMT)
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Pero como todo, siempre debes supeditarte al 'contexto'.
Peer comment(s):

neutral CarmenHaydee : No es correcto. Hay una gran diferencia entre una clausula con si del subjuntivo y una simple condicion con si...:)
4 hrs
Como puedes ver en la misma respuesta, aclaré "en este caso". ¿Podrías tú entonces poner cuál es la diferencia entre el significado de "if you were to have a legal dispute" e "if you had a legal dispute" (en el CASO que nos ha puesto quien pregunta?
neutral Ana Brassara : La referencia que pusiste arriba en la nota es la misma que ya había puesto yo en mi respuesta.
16 hrs
Sí, y mi intención no es robarte la respuesta. De hecho "aclaré" que lo tomé de tu respuesta para ejemplificar la respuesta que le di a Carmen en cuanto a que no hay diferencia en el sentido (la cual es mi respuesta original).
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N/A

You don't have a difference in If, the difference is in the verb form. In both cases you will translate if as Si.

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Note added at 14 mins (2007-03-21 20:36:34 GMT)
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Si fueras a tener
Si tuvieras

Note from asker:
Yes, my question deals basically with the use of "were to have/had" in conditionals.
Peer comment(s):

neutral Alessandro Zocchi : Glaster, that's obvious, I think the asker only wanted to express his doubts concerning conditional clauses... Ale
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