Jul 31, 2006 19:25
18 yrs ago
English term

was not even due to

Non-PRO English Art/Literary Linguistics
In the folowing sentence I find "even due to" a bit strange. Is the sentence ok? What does it mean?


"Wellington's abandonment of an attempt to make a Tory government was not even due to threats of civil war more to Peef's refusal to join Tory government."

Thank you
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Discussion

Peter Shortall Jul 31, 2006:
To me, "not even due to... more to" makes no sense at all. I'm not sure about "make" (form?), there seems to be an article missing after "join" and I'm sure it should be Peel rather than Peef... so in answer to your question, no, I don't think it is okay!

Responses

+3
4 mins
Selected

was not caused by what one might think the most likely reason

The thread of civil war might have been expected to be the main factor in his decision, but Peel's decision was an even more important one.

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Note added at 6 mins (2006-07-31 19:32:41 GMT)
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"war, but more..." The insertion of the comma and "but" improves the sentence and makes it clearer.

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Note added at 1 hr (2006-07-31 20:31:16 GMT)
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For "thread" read "threat".
Peer comment(s):

agree Sara Noss
1 min
Thank you.
agree swisstell
5 mins
Thank you.
agree Zhuoqi Mills (X) : The insertion of "but" is quite important, I also think that "so much" should replace "even".
57 mins
Thank you. "Not so much" is possible but less emphatic.
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4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer. Comment: "Selected automatically based on peer agreement."
3 mins

seems fine to me

you could say - 'not even as a result of'

'because of', in other words.

HTH
Sara

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Note added at 4 mins (2006-07-31 19:30:18 GMT)
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I think I would like to see a 'but' after civil war.
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6 mins

was not so much a result of.... as

...was not so much a result of threats of civil war as Peef's refusal...
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+2
8 mins

attributable to

In your example, due to is used correctly as a synonym of 'attributable to'

Due to - Careful writers avoid this phrase unless 'due' functions as an adjective, with a specific noun to modify: 'The shutdown was due to snow' (with shutdown as the modified noun.) But not 'The schools were closed due to snow;' make it because of snow instead. - The New York Times Manual of Style and Usage

Peer comment(s):

agree Asghar Bhatti
4 hrs
agree Lubain Masum
14 hrs
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4 mins

was not even caused by/was not even the result of (see below)

I think that there's a word missing - I've put it in in capital letters - that also might help.



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Note added at 6 mins (2006-07-31 19:32:14 GMT)
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Sorry, it got lost - here we go again!

"Wellington's abandonment of an attempt to make a Tory government was not even due to threats of civil war, BUT more to Peef's refusal to join Tory government."



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Note added at 1 day2 hrs (2006-08-01 22:15:31 GMT)
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Of course, Peter's comment above is also right - it should be:
'. . . Peel's refusal to join A/THE Tory government."
I didn't pick up on it before because I was thinking about the phrase you gave in the question and the missing 'BUT' which I mentioned in my original answer.
Sorry about that.
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