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Glossary entry

Turkish term or phrase:

Dair taraf vekilleri

English translation:

respective attorneys

Added to glossary by Aziz Kural
Oct 31, 2012 21:48
12 yrs ago
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Turkish term

Dair taraf vekilleri

Turkish to English Law/Patents Law (general) Divorce documents/Legal D
Dair taraf vekilleri şöyle şöyle yapsınlar gibi bir cümle.
Dair taraf vekillerinin oturmuş İngilizcesi lazım.

Vereceğiniz tüm cevaplar için buradan teşekkür ediyorum
Selamlar ve bol kazançlar,
AZiz
Proposed translations (English)
5 +2 respective attorneys
4 attorneys of the related party
4 attorneys of the parties hereto
Change log

Oct 31, 2012 21:48: changed "Kudoz queue" from "In queue" to "Public"

Nov 1, 2012 01:37: Erkan Dogan changed "Level" from "Non-PRO" to "PRO"

Votes to reclassify question as PRO/non-PRO:

PRO (3): Özgür Salman, Güzide Arslaner, Erkan Dogan

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Discussion

Tim Drayton Nov 5, 2012:
dair ... karar From your quote, I am sure that this belongs to a longer sentence. The word 'dair' is linked to 'karar', and the clauses before 'dair' tell you what the decision actually was. There must be a list of clauses all ending in the -a/e case. The basic sentence is "...-a, ...-a, ....-a (etc.) dair ... karar ... anlatıldı."
Aziz Kural (asker) Nov 4, 2012:
Dair taraf vekillerinín yüzünde ilamm tçblígínden itibaren onbeß gún íçerísinde
mahkememize verilecek bir dilekçe ile Yargltay Ilgilí Hukuk Dairesine ternyiz yolu açlk
olmak üzere Verilen karar açlkça okunup usulen anlat1ld1.l0.03.20l 1
Erkan Dogan Nov 1, 2012:
I believe that "Dair" is not a part of the previous sentence. Although it looks like it is the continuity of the previous answer, it is not. I was confident but sought an expert opinion as well. I asked a judge who has 28 years of service. He said [phrases like verilmesine, reddine, tutulmasına etc. are assumed to be followed with (karar verilmiştir), yet judges don't complete the sentence, because it is obvious that the decree is being declared. (karar verilmiştir) part is assumed. The items or sentences following the decree are usually other details such as proceeding routines, certain procedures etc. that are not included in the decree. As an example, if the judge does not specify who would pay for court fees in the decree section, he/she can add it after cutting the decree with '-mesine,']. Considering that our legal professionals do not use perfect Turkish writing rules (take a look at a Power of Attorney for instance), it is not surprising to me. Hope it helps.
Tim Drayton Nov 1, 2012:
continued from below 4- 324,96.-TL.harçtan peşin alınan harcın mahsubu ile bakiye 216,26.-TL.harcın davalıdan tahsiline,
5- 1.200,00.-TL.maktu vekalet ücretinin davalıdan alınıp davacıya, kısmi red nedeniyle 1.200,00.-TL.maktu vekalet ücretinin davacıdan alınıp davalıya verilmesine,
6- 350,00.-TL.yargılama giderinden red ve kabule göre takdiren tümünün davalıdan alınıp davacıya verilmesine,
Dair taraf vekillerinin yüzlerine karşı 8 gün içinde Yargıtay yolu açık olmak üzere verilen karar açıkça okunup usulen anlatıldı. 26/12/2011"

If so, 'dair' appars to be at the beginning of a sentence, but if you look more closely you will see that this is actually all one long sentence (irrespective of the fact that 'Dair' is capitalised), and you will see that 'dair' actually refers to all of the points listed above.
Tim Drayton Nov 1, 2012:
Is it like this: It may be something like this:

http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:lttOtGZ...

"HÜKÜM : Gerekçesi yukarıda açıklandığı üzere;
1-D avacının davalı aleyhine açmış olduğu kıdem tazminatı alacağı ile ilgili davsının 28.02.2011 tarihli bilirkişi raporundaki 1.seçenekteki hesap miktarı baz alınarak ve taleple bağlı kalıanrak kabulüne, bu itibarla; 1.000,00.-TL.kıdem tazminatının 15.05.2009 fesih tarihinden itibaren işleyecek en yüksek banka mevduat faiziyle birlikte davalıdan alınıp davacıya verilmesine, davacının fazlaya ilişkin taleplerinin saklı tutulmasına,
2- Davacının ücret alacağı ile iglili davalı aleyhine açtığı davasının 28.02.2011 tarihli b.kişi raporundaki 1 seçenekte hesap miktarı baz alınarak ve ıslah dilekeçsindeki taleple bağlı kalınarak kabulüne, bu itibarla;.4.470,69.-TL.ücret alacağının (3.500,00.-TL.lik kısmı üzerinden 26.11.2009 dava, bakiyesi üzerinden 25.10.2011 ıslah tarihlerinden itibaren işleyecek en yüksek banka mevduat faiziyle birlikte) davalıdan alınıp davacıya verilmesine,
3- İhbar tazmiant alacağı ile ilgili davalı aleyhine açılan davanın reddine,
Aziz Kural (asker) Nov 1, 2012:
Hello, the sentence begins like this 'Dair taraf vekilleri'.
Tim Drayton Nov 1, 2012:
'Dair' is not part of this phrase 'Taraf vekilleri' is 'the parties' attorneys'; 'dair' is not part of this phrase, it means 'about, regarding, concerning etc.' and has to do with the preceding phrase.

Proposed translations

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respective attorneys

Kullanımı bu şekilde. Dair burada ilgili anlamında.

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Note added at 3 days7 hrs (2012-11-04 04:50:00 GMT)
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Rica ederim. Kolay gelsin.
Note from asker:
Teşekkürler...
Peer comment(s):
agree Güzide Arslaner
11 hrs
Teşekkür ederim.
agree Zafer Gedikli : Agree
1 day 11 hrs
Tesekkur ederim.
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4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer. Comment: "Teşekkürker..."
8 hrs

attorneys of the related party

dair taraf = ilgili taraf
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171 days

attorneys of the parties hereto

'attorneys of the parties hereto' should be used here, nothing else.
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