Robert Carter Mar 23:

@Wilsonn And the official language of San Marino is...? I'm sure I could find something written in not-quite-Spanish from another obscure corner of the globe where, for example, they might've used the term "legalmente válido" to mean "legally valid", but that's not generally how one would express that meaning in most Spanish-speaking countries, if I'm not mistaken.
So, unless Rachel is translating into the San Marino variant of English (and even then I'd have to see more than a single reference), I have to say that, like Rachel, I'm still not convinced that "produced civil effects" means anything in English.

By the way, as I've been wrong about things so often throughout my life, I'm always open to the possibility that I don't know what I don't know, and I'm quite happy to change my mind if I'm proven wrong. You?

Wilsonn Perez Reyes Mar 23:

OFFICIAL TRANSLATION INTO FRENCH 145. La loi no 49 du 26 avril 1986 réglemente le mariage, notamment les conditions requises pour se marier. À l’instar de l’article 12 de la Déclaration, l’article premier de cette loi définit le mariage comme l’union d’un homme et d’une femme, fondée sur l’égalité des conjoints, tandis que l’article 3 dispose que le mariage civil et le mariage religieux produisent les mêmes effets civils.
https://documents.un.org/symbol-explorer?s=E/C.12/SMR/4&i=E/...

Wilsonn Perez Reyes Mar 23:

causar efectos civiles = producir efectos civiles ORIGINAL IN ENGLISH (Official Document from the United Nations)
145. Law No. 49 of 26 April 1986 regulates marriage, including the formal requirements prior to contracting marriage. Similarly to Art. 12 of the Declaration, Art. 1 of said Law defines marriage as the union between a man and a woman based on the formal and substantial equality of spouses, while Art. 3 stipulates that civil and religious marriages produce the same civil effects.

OFFICIAL TRANSLATION INTO SPANISH
145. La Ley Nº 49, de 26 de abril de 1986, regula el matrimonio, incluidos los requisitos para contraerlo. Análogamente al artículo 12 de la Declaración, el artículo 1 de dicha ley define el matrimonio como la unión entre un hombre y una mujer fundada en la igualdad fundamental de los esposos, mientras que el artículo 3 dispone que los matrimonios civiles y religiosos tienen los mismos efectos civiles.
https://documents.un.org/symbol-explorer?s=E/C.12/SMR/4&i=E/...

Robert Carter Mar 23:

@Rachel Where did you come across these sentences? I can't find a single example of the construction "causa efectos civiles en España", and only 9 Google hits for "causa efectos civiles".
Incidentally, the second of your sentences, "Este nacimiento causa efectos civiles en España" doesn't make sense to me either, since a birth is a relatively undeniable fact, unlike a marriage (which is in effect a contract). The phrase "esta inscripción de nacimiento causa efectos civiles" would be understandable, but not "este nacimiento causa efectos civiles".

Wilsonn Perez Reyes Mar 22:

Let's NOT be afraid of literal translation "produce legal effects" is correct and usable in written English. You can use this phrase to indicate that an action or contract has legally binding consequences. For example, 'Marriage contracts produce legal effects and create rights and obligations between the parties involved.
https://ludwig.guru/s/produce legal effects#:~:text="produce...