Glossary entry

French term or phrase:

terminal de cuisson

English translation:

bakery outlet

Added to glossary by Tony M
Jul 6, 2010 18:08
14 yrs ago
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French term

terminal de cuisson

French to English Bus/Financial Food & Drink
can't find a good English equivalent to this - sounds similar to a boulangerie. See reference below:

*Qu’est-ce qu’un terminal de cuisson ?
La différence entre la boulangerie artisanale et le terminal de cuisson se situe tout d’abord sur le plan de la formation : être boulanger est un métier qui ne s’improvise pas et requiert une formation adaptée. En revanche, travailler dans un terminal de cuisson (aussi appelé "point chaud") n’exige pas de compétences particulières en boulangerie, puisqu’il s'agit de cuire du pain surgelé acheté à des industriels. Bien souvent le "point chaud" n’assure que la cuisson ou la finition des produits. En revanche, le boulanger maîtrise sa production depuis l’achat de ses matières premières jusqu’à la cuisson du pain."
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Jul 9, 2010 09:00: Tony M Created KOG entry

Discussion

Travelin Ann Jul 6, 2010:
@Tony M While I understand the meaning of "outlet" in this sense, in the US it has a different meaning. A bakery outlet sells the overage that cannot be delivered to the usual points of sale. No longer necessarily "day-old" product, but it is not a location where the goods are cooked/baked.
See for example: http://www.yelp.com/biz/franz-bakery-outlet-store-seattle

Proposed translations

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bakery outlet

Please see the earlier KudoZ about 'point chaud', where there was lengthy discussion.

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Note added at 57 mins (2010-07-06 19:05:30 GMT)
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Although the distinction in meaning may not be made especially clear in EN, I think the use of 'outlet' would satisfy the Trades Descriptions Act, and is sufficiently explicit for anyone who needs to figure out just what the difference is.
Peer comment(s):

agree Alison Sabedoria (X) : I think this is fine for the UK, at any rate.
16 mins
Thanks, W/E! :-)
neutral Claire Nolan : Agree with Travelin Ann; for me it means a place where bread, etc. is sold when near ''consume by'' date or if there are imperfections.
20 mins
Well, I guess Asker will need to tell us then if AE or BE is required?
agree Lionel_M (X)
1 hr
Merci, Lionel !
agree Evans (X) : sadly often what we merely call a "bakery" in England, even where there hasn't been a whisper of an oven in presence for decades...
13 hrs
Thanks, Gilla! Ah, back in the olden days, that was what my Mum called a 'bread shop'...
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4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer. Comment: "'Bakery outlet' made most sense in the context of my translation - thanks."
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bakery kiosk

Could this work? It wouldl suggest that it is not a traditional bakery and more of a warm-up point of sale... Hope this helps.
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baking station

I don't think there's an exact equivalent in English, so instead of talking about working in a "terminal cuisson" you could say "working at a baking station". It's the kind of thing you might find within a larger business, for example in McDonald's. As the context says, it requires relatively little skill to operate. Here's a couple of examples.
Peer comment(s):

agree Alison Sabedoria (X) : This could work, possibly better for US than UK.
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in-store bakery

In-store bakeries use frozen dough, as opposed to from-scratch bakeries, which would be the equivalent of ''boulangeries artisinales''.

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Note added at 5 hrs (2010-07-06 23:51:56 GMT)
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In-store bakeries appear in many locations: from food supermarkets and consumer club warehouses, to convenience stores and gas stations. They range from the full-line bakery producing a wide range of baked products, to the modest-size bakery producing only one or two products with limited equipment. The type of shop greatly influences the type and design of required products.

In-store bakeries fall into three main groups. The fully equipped or full-range bakery produces a wide baked-good selection from a full range of ingredients. The specific bakery produces a specific or specialized range of baked products, such as only cakes, muffins and cookies. The third type, limited by in-store space requirements, produces only one or two products. These bakeries are often found in convenience stores and gas stations. Limited bakeries also occupy shopping mall space as free-standing outlets of national franchise operations, such as Mrs Fields Cookies.

http://www.foodproductdesign.com/articles/1997/03/whats-in-s...
Peer comment(s):

agree Desdemone (X) : nice
7 mins
Thanks, Paula.
neutral Tony M : I'm afraid I can't agree, inasmuch as they aren't only 'in-store' bakeries.. there are plenty of ones outside stores as well; by the same token, some in-store bakeries are indeed genuine bakeries
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Tony, I'd like to find that grocery store that carries ''from scratch'' baked goods! The article I added to my answer indicates that ''in-store bakeries'' include supermarkets, convenience stores, gas stations, and warehouse-type stores.
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