Jul 27, 2011 08:50
13 yrs ago
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French term

Portail, portillon

French to English Tech/Engineering Engineering (general) Gates
In a tender for site maintenance, list of features covered. Context:
"XXXX assurera l’entretien :
• Des clôtures périphériques
• Clôtures internes HS
• Des portails
• Des portillons"

What is the difference between a "portail" and a "portillon", please? Is it just size? Thanks in advance for any help.
Proposed translations (English)
4 +3 gate, side gate
4 gate, wicket gate
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Bourth (X) Jul 27, 2011:
This has come up before so there must be something (particularly since I changed my photo at the time). Much will depend on location location locution.
In front of my house I have a portail at the end of the drive, and beside it a portillon or side gate for pedestrian entrance (the portillon was originally on the side boundary, dating from the time when the neighbour's house and mine belonged to the same family). On industrial or military sites, etc. you might well have this configuration, or a main/vehicle gate at one point, possibly with a side gate alongside, and other portillons at other locations, potentially located as a "(pedestrian) back gate".
Main or large gate vs small or secondary or ancillary gates? Vehicle gates vs pedestrian gates?

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gate, side gate

the Portail is to let cars in for instance. The portillon is a side gate for people.

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Note added at 3 mins (2011-07-27 08:54:08 GMT)
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I would not go with "side door" because this is for direct entrance into the building.
Note from asker:
I couldn't use gate once, since there was a different price quoted for the two kinds of gate!
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agree nordiste : exactement
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agree mimi 254
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agree claude-andrew : Could simply use gate once, it means both (do Google image on gate)
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gate, wicket gate

A wicket gate is a small gate for pedestrian entrance. It may sometimes (but not necessarily) be set into a larger gate.

"A wicket gate is a small gate or door, particularly one built into a larger one. The cricket term "wicket" comes from this usage. The term wicket gate is also used in English to refer to automatic ticket barriers or older staffed ticket gates on Japan's railway network. ...

'The Wicket Gate' is an important fictional place and structure in John Bunyan's The Pilgrim's Progress. As the first stage of the journey of Christian to the Celestial City, it is the entrance to the King's Highway."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wicket_gate
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