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Jun 1, 2011 18:22
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Spanish term

hepatomegalia tumoral

Spanish to English Medical Medical (general) metastatic cancer report
This phrase shows up in a report of a PET/CT scan of a patient with colon cancer and liver metastases.

The sentence reads:

"Hepatomegalia tumoral con grandes lesiones tumorales, con centro necrótico las mayores ... "

I think this means that the liver is enlarged due to the tumor(s) ... but is there a concise way of translating "hepatomegalia tumoral"?

This is actually a proofreading job ... the linguist translated this as "Enlarged liver tumor with large tumoral lesions ..." but "enlarged liver tumor" doesn't feel quite right to me.

I appreciate your suggestions.
Proposed translations (English)
4 +4 tumoral hepatomegaly
3 +2 neoplastic related hepatomegaly

Discussion

ARS54 Jun 6, 2011:
Grazie a te e buon lavoro, Joe. A presto, AR
Joseph Tein (asker) Jun 6, 2011:
Thank you all for your suggestions and contributions. I liked the sound and directness of Anna Rosa's one reference "tumor-induced hepatomegaly" and this is what I used in my translation.
ARS54 Jun 4, 2011:
...If the link does not work, try ->

http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/00144800679...

(Charles J. Epstein a, Harold L. Moses a, Lois B. Epstein a and Mary M. Garrison a

aLaboratories of Chemical Biology, of Experimental Pathology, and of Nutrition and Endocrinology, National Institute of Arthritis and Metabolic Diseases, and the Laboratory of Immunology, National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases, National Institutes of Health, Bethesda, Maryland 20014 USA)
ARS54 Jun 2, 2011:
Only one Google result, but... from a native Author, a very, very important scientific article locator, and a great Cancer Institute like Bethesda... (!!!) ->

CJ Epstein - 1967 - Citato da 9 - Articoli correlati
... National Institutes of Health, Bethesda, Maryland 20014 USA ... 304 TUMOR-INDUCED HEPATOMEGALY 305 Adrenalectomies were carried out under ether ...
www.linkinghub.elsevier.com/retrieve/pii/0014480067900433

...just another suggestion, :)
Anne Schulz Jun 2, 2011:
agree with Emma in all aspects "tumor related hepatomegaly" or "tumoral hepatomegaly" seems adequate to me (but not "enlarged liver tumor")
Emma Goldsmith Jun 1, 2011:
Hi Joseph I can quite understand your concern that Google only returns 16 hits when "tumoral hepatomegaly" is searched with quotation marks. However, note that "hepatomegalia tumoral" only gets 46 hits, so we're not looking for a common expression here.
Your understanding that the "liver is enlarged due to the tumor" is correct, and if nobody comes up with anything better, then I would go with "tumoral hepatomegaly"
Charles Davis Jun 1, 2011:
Hi Joseph I get more results for "metastatic hepatomegaly", particularly in untranslated texts, but although this is presumably what the patient in your text has, I'm not confident enough to post it, because "metastatic" is not really an exact synonym of "tumoral". However, I offer the idea for what it's worth.
Joseph Tein (asker) Jun 1, 2011:
quotation marks ... to be really super clear ... when you search for a phrase without the quotation marks around it, you get many, many (as in "a lot") more answers than if you put in the words inside quotation marks.

Just as a trivial example: look up the phrase, with quotation marks, "cooked red chili peppers". Then put in the same words, same word order if you want, without the quotation marks ... you'll notice a slight difference in the number of google hits you get each way.

¿Capito?
eski Jun 1, 2011:
English Google: Sorry guys; here's the Google link in English:
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&biw=1003&bih=537&q=tumora...
eski :))
eski Jun 1, 2011:
Hi Joseph and Phil: I don't know if I have some 'super' version of Google, but here's the link:
http://www.google.com/search?q=hepatomegalia tumoral&hl=en&p...

...I counted over 30 hits just on the first few pages and the list goes on...lemme know if you can see them; I'd hate to think I'm hallucinating: (btw-I usually use the Mexican Google version :)))
Joseph Tein (asker) Jun 1, 2011:
Googling the suggested answer The version of Google that I have access to gives me 16 hits for this phrase ... when I put the words inside quotation marks "tumoral hepatomegaly". Of course we'll get hundreds of thousands of hits when we put in the words separately.

The sixteen hits ... or Phil's 25 hits (he must have a more powerful version of Google) is the reason that I posted this question. When there are so few instances of something online, it makes me think there must be a more common, more frequently used expression.

Proposed translations

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1 hr

neoplastic related hepatomegaly

If you search on websites in English, there are more matches for this one and it is always related to that topic.
Example sentence:

Neoplastic related hepatomegaly refers to an enlarged liver that is linked to a tumor consisting of an abnormal growth of cells.

The following medical conditions are some of the possible causes of Neoplastic related hepatomegaly.

Reference:

http://symptoms.wrongdiagnosis.com/cosymptoms/nausea/neoplastic-related-hepatomegaly-desc.htm

http://symptoms.wrongdiagnosis.com/cosymptoms/nausea/neoplastic-related-hepatomegaly-desc.htm

Peer comment(s):
neutral Emma Goldsmith : I like the idea of this, but all 21 Google hits (in quotation marks !!) are nearly all from the same website. I also feel that "neoplastic-related" sounds a bit strange on a PET scan, which is just stating what can be seen.
48 mins
Yes, that made me wonder a little bit, but I neither feel comfortable with the other answer... sounds very much like a translation...
agree Muriel Vasconcellos : While it's true that the examples all come from the same website, there are numerous entries on the subject, and I think this is about the best one could do, given the Spanish.
13 hrs
agree ARS54 : ...21 Google hits? -> http://www.google.it/search?hl=it&source=hp&biw=1259&bih=852...
1 day 4 hrs
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tumoral hepatomegaly

Consider:

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[Burkitt's lymphoma and AIDS. Their presentation as tumoral ... - [ Traducir esta página ]
de GJL Ogea - 1989
Their presentation as tumoral hepatomegaly and acute kidney failure due to the tubular deposit of urates]. [Article in Spanish] ...
www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/2491055
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[Extensive liver cancer of undetermined origin. Diagnostic procedure]. - [ Traducir esta página ]
de F Ballet - 1985
22 Jun 1985 ... In patients with isolated malignant tumoral hepatomegaly ...
www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/3161032
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Brain tumor and Neoplastic related hepatomegaly in children ... - [ Traducir esta página ]
List of 32 causes for Brain tumor and Neoplastic related hepatomegaly in children, alternative diagnoses, rare causes, misdiagnoses, patient stories, ...
symptoms.wrongdiagnosis.com › Brain tumor - En caché
Beckwith-Wiedemann syndrome - Humpath.com - Human pathology ... - [ Traducir esta página ]
Mulilobulated liver and hepatomegaly in Beckwith-Wiedemann syndrome (fetus (. ... risk and tumor type in patients with Beckwith-Wiedemann syndrome (BWS). ...
www.humpath.com/spip.php?article824&id_document... - En caché
[PDF] Hepatomegalia
Formato de archivo: PDF/Adobe Acrobat - Versión en HTML
Palabras clave: Hepatomegalia; Tumores hepáticos; Enfermedades metabólicas; Depósito; Síndrome de Budd-Chiari. Key words: Hepatomegaly; Liver tumors; ...
www.sepeap.org/secciones/.../pdf/221-237 Hepatomegalia PI-3...

Saludos, Joseph!
eski :))

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304 TUMOR-INDUCED HEPATOMEGALY 305 Adrenalectomies were carried out under ... TUMOR-INDUCED HEPATOMEGALY 307 The increase in the weight of the liver in both ...
linkinghub.elsevier.com/retrieve/pii/0014480067900433
Comprehensive clinical hepatology - Resultado de la Búsqueda de libros de Google
Bruce R. Bacon, John G. O'Grady - 2006 - Medical - 723 páginas
Sudden attacks of more severe pain may be caused by spontaneous bleeding into the tumor. Hepatomegaly, often massive, is an invariable feature of ...
books.google.com.mx/books?isbn=0323036759

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[Burkitt's lymphoma and AIDS. Their presentation as tumoral ... - [ Traducir esta página ]
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An Med Interna (1989) 6: 551-2. [Burkitt's lymphoma and AIDS. Their presentation as tumoral hepatomegaly and acute kidney ...
www.aidshivresearch.com/showabstract.php?pmid=2491055 - En caché
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Textbook of pediatric infectious diseases - Resultado de la Búsqueda de libros de Google
Ralph D. Feigin - 2004 - Communicable diseases in children - 3348 páginas
The clinical picture may resemble cirrhosis, hepatic tumor or abscess, or intra-abdominal tumor. Hepatomegaly, abdominal masses, fever, and jaundice are ...
books.google.com.mx/books?isbn=0721693296...
Hepatomegaly - [ Traducir esta página ]
2 May 2009 ... Hepatomegaly is swelling of the liver beyond its normal size. ... obesity, and high triglycerides); Tumor metastases ...
adam.about.net/encyclopedia/Hepatomegaly.htm - En caché
Metastatic Liver Cancer: Liver Masses and Granulomas: Merck Manual ... - [ Traducir esta página ]
The liver may be enlarged, hard, or tender; massive hepatomegaly with ... Depending on characteristics of the primary tumor, systemic chemotherapy may ...
www.merckmanuals.com/professional/sec03/.../ch029e.html - En caché
Liver Diseases - [ Traducir esta página ]
hepatomegaly- enlarged liver. septicemia- excess accumulation of bacteria and toxins in ... metastatic- a tumor that has spread from elsewhere in the body ...
www.lbah.com/liver.htm - En caché -

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I understood it as a joke and responded in kind, Joe. Still, I haven't found a better alternative for your post.
Saludos from Aca!
eski :))
Note from asker:
Hola eski. Gracias por tu propuesta ... mira arriba, lo que escribí en la discusión :)
Oye mi amigo: PUT IT INSIDE QUOTATION MARKS ... "tumoral hepatomegaly". (btw: Lo de "super" Google version ... it was a joke, solo una broma.)
Peer comment(s):
agree Remy Arce
2 mins
Thanks & muchos saludos, Remy! eski :))
neutral philgoddard : This seems the obvious solution, but it only gets 25 Google hits and they all appear to be translations.
13 mins
I don't know what Google you have access to, but: "Aproximadamente 322,000 resultados" (0.08 segundos) 30 seconds ago, Phil. (See more links above with 11 pages of links on my screen. Saludos, :)) eski
agree Linda Grabner : apparently you have a "better" Google than I do; I only got ~306,000 hits! :-D
1 hr
Thanks again DrG! :)) eski :))
agree Charles Davis : Phil's right about the phrase, but each word is common enough so logically it ought to be OK.
1 hr
Thanks for your confirmation, Charles! eski :))
agree Emma Goldsmith : I agree, so long as you promise to use "inverted commas" in your Google searches in the future :)
15 hrs
Will do! (I have to admit: Sometimes I'm moving so fast; I forget to...) eski :))
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