Glossary entry (derived from question below)
Spanish term or phrase:
normas [en este caso]
English translation:
rules/regulations
Added to glossary by
Terry Burgess
Jul 22, 2002 21:26
22 yrs ago
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Spanish term
Normas
Spanish to English
Law/Patents
Second doubt - what is the usual transltion of 'Normas'
eg "Normas para el derecho al trabajo..." or "Regulación de la inmigración y normas sobre las condiciones del extranjero".
Thanks
eg "Normas para el derecho al trabajo..." or "Regulación de la inmigración y normas sobre las condiciones del extranjero".
Thanks
Proposed translations
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5 +14 | rules/regulations |
Terry Burgess
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5 +3 | standards or rules |
Ra91571
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4 +1 | guidelines vs. rules |
Parrot
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5 | standards |
Magdalena Villaronga
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5 | norms |
R.J.Chadwick (X)
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4 | Rules or policies |
Nitza Ramos
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Proposed translations
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rules/regulations
Definitely!
For other contexts, they can be norms or standards.
Luck!
terry
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Note added at 2002-07-22 21:48:35 (GMT)
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If it\'s of further help to you, glad to add here [copied and pasted] the translations from the Oxford Superlex:
norma f
a (regla) rule, regulation; normas de conducta rules of conduct; normas sociales social
norms; observar las normas de seguridad to observe the safety regulations; las normas
vigentes the regulations currently in force; dictar normas to lay down rules o regulations;
tengo por norma no beber al mediodía I make it a rule not to drink at lunchtime
b (manera común de hacer algo): es norma que or la norma es que acudan a este tipo de
reunión los directivos de la empresa it is standard practice for the directors of the
company to attend this kind of meeting
norma lingüística linguistic norm
Luck!
t
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Note added at 2002-07-22 23:46:31 (GMT)
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I would NEVER normally disagree with Cecilia but in the case of laws governing labor rights and the legal status of immigrants, I have to say they would be regulations or rules.....rather than guidelines....unless this were about an information booklet being published to help foreigners know about their rights. I\'ll definitely stick to my original answer:-)))
t
For other contexts, they can be norms or standards.
Luck!
terry
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Note added at 2002-07-22 21:48:35 (GMT)
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If it\'s of further help to you, glad to add here [copied and pasted] the translations from the Oxford Superlex:
norma f
a (regla) rule, regulation; normas de conducta rules of conduct; normas sociales social
norms; observar las normas de seguridad to observe the safety regulations; las normas
vigentes the regulations currently in force; dictar normas to lay down rules o regulations;
tengo por norma no beber al mediodía I make it a rule not to drink at lunchtime
b (manera común de hacer algo): es norma que or la norma es que acudan a este tipo de
reunión los directivos de la empresa it is standard practice for the directors of the
company to attend this kind of meeting
norma lingüística linguistic norm
Luck!
t
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Note added at 2002-07-22 23:46:31 (GMT)
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I would NEVER normally disagree with Cecilia but in the case of laws governing labor rights and the legal status of immigrants, I have to say they would be regulations or rules.....rather than guidelines....unless this were about an information booklet being published to help foreigners know about their rights. I\'ll definitely stick to my original answer:-)))
t
Reference:
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Ester Vidal (X)
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Muchas gracias Ester:-)))
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Peter Bagney
: absolutely
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Thank you Peter:-)))
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Сергей Лузан
: ruls & regs
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Thank you again Ñåðãåé Ëóçàí...you're very kind:-)))
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agree |
Rufino Pérez De La Sierra
5 mins
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Muchas gracias Rufino:-)))
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agree |
Valeria Verona
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Mil gracias Vale:-)))
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MikeGarcia
8 mins
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Thanks again Mike!!..How'ya doin'?. Saludos calurosos desde México para Argentina:-)))
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agree |
Lia Fail (X)
: There's a linguistic overlap, normas are regulations
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Thank you Ailish:-)))
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agree |
Maria Fernanda Rosales
36 mins
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Muchas gracias María:-)))
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agree |
Sheila Hardie
40 mins
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Thank you "SJ":-)))
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Patricia Mazzucco
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Thank you Pat!..and I LOVED your early commentary about references: "Diccionario Mazzucco". Assuredly-wise words:-)))
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Tania Marques-Cardoso
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Valeria Bratina
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Sarah Ponting
7 hrs
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agree |
Paul Mably (X)
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4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer.
Comment: "thanks all."
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1 min
standards or rules
thomas west, for example
rules of conduct, safety standards, technical standards
rules of conduct, safety standards, technical standards
Peer comment(s):
agree |
Patricia Mazzucco
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agree |
Paul Mably (X)
8 hrs
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agree |
Rosa Garcia
: mrsrag1981/ruless sounds right
2 days 41 mins
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7 mins
Rules or policies
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1 hr
guidelines vs. rules
In one example, "norms" may be guidelines (in the EU, a norm or directive passed by the European Commission cannot be imposed on a country, for example); the more usual meaning is "rules". If the application of such rules is difficult to measure, these are usually guidelines.
Peer comment(s):
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Esther Hermida
: Estoy de acuerdo. Yo diría guidelines
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neutral |
Terry Burgess
: Sorry dear but in this case....I don't think so:-)))
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2 hrs
standards
Normas = standards
9 hrs
norms
Everything the other answerers have said is correct.
But the term "norm/s" does exist in English -- and it has connotations beyond "standard" or "rule".\
It often occurs in contexts relating to commonly held expectations about proper human conduct.
The following short text should interest you:
DEFEND LABOUR RIGHTS
Labour Rights and Human Rights
The Links
Rights in the world of work - eg the right to organise in unions, the right to collective bargaining, health & safety etc, are governed by legal codes which must conform with the International Labour Organisation (ILO) conventions that reflect the accepted international norms. In civil and political affairs, in social, cultural and environmental matters, the international minimum standards for rights we should all enjoy are framed in conventions based on the Universal Declaration of Human Rights.
http://www.amnesty.org/ailib/intcam/tunion/1998/article3.htm
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Note added at 2002-07-23 10:39:31 (GMT)
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Also, see The Blackwell Dictionary of Twentieth Century Thought p. 425:-
NORM: At its most general the idea of a norm is the idea of a pattern. There are two main ways in which this idea has been developed in social theory, where social norms have been the focus of concern. First, there is the idea of a norm as an actual pattern of behaviour, as what is \'normal\' in the sense of being regularly or standardly done by members of a population. (...) Second, there is the idea of a norm as a prescribed pattern: as what is considered in a given population to be the thing to do. (...) Social norms are often associated with expectations. Two different kinds of expectation need to be distinguished: predictive expectations about what in fact will be done by members of a population, and normative or deontic expectations. Normative expectations involve a belief that the \'expected\' behaviour ought to occur, in some more than merely predictive sense .... (etc.)
But the term "norm/s" does exist in English -- and it has connotations beyond "standard" or "rule".\
It often occurs in contexts relating to commonly held expectations about proper human conduct.
The following short text should interest you:
DEFEND LABOUR RIGHTS
Labour Rights and Human Rights
The Links
Rights in the world of work - eg the right to organise in unions, the right to collective bargaining, health & safety etc, are governed by legal codes which must conform with the International Labour Organisation (ILO) conventions that reflect the accepted international norms. In civil and political affairs, in social, cultural and environmental matters, the international minimum standards for rights we should all enjoy are framed in conventions based on the Universal Declaration of Human Rights.
http://www.amnesty.org/ailib/intcam/tunion/1998/article3.htm
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Note added at 2002-07-23 10:39:31 (GMT)
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Also, see The Blackwell Dictionary of Twentieth Century Thought p. 425:-
NORM: At its most general the idea of a norm is the idea of a pattern. There are two main ways in which this idea has been developed in social theory, where social norms have been the focus of concern. First, there is the idea of a norm as an actual pattern of behaviour, as what is \'normal\' in the sense of being regularly or standardly done by members of a population. (...) Second, there is the idea of a norm as a prescribed pattern: as what is considered in a given population to be the thing to do. (...) Social norms are often associated with expectations. Two different kinds of expectation need to be distinguished: predictive expectations about what in fact will be done by members of a population, and normative or deontic expectations. Normative expectations involve a belief that the \'expected\' behaviour ought to occur, in some more than merely predictive sense .... (etc.)
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