Glossary entry

Spanish term or phrase:

normas [en este caso]

English translation:

rules/regulations

Added to glossary by Terry Burgess
Jul 22, 2002 21:26
22 yrs ago
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Spanish term

Normas

Spanish to English Law/Patents
Second doubt - what is the usual transltion of 'Normas'

eg "Normas para el derecho al trabajo..." or "Regulación de la inmigración y normas sobre las condiciones del extranjero".

Thanks

Discussion

Non-ProZ.com Jul 22, 2002:
References? What is the USUAL translation for my first example please? Regulations/Rules and regulations/Rules/Norms...? Any reference would be helpful.

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rules/regulations

Definitely!
For other contexts, they can be norms or standards.
Luck!
terry

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If it\'s of further help to you, glad to add here [copied and pasted] the translations from the Oxford Superlex:

norma f
a (regla) rule, regulation; normas de conducta rules of conduct; normas sociales social
norms; observar las normas de seguridad to observe the safety regulations; las normas
vigentes the regulations currently in force; dictar normas to lay down rules o regulations;
tengo por norma no beber al mediodía I make it a rule not to drink at lunchtime
b (manera común de hacer algo): es norma que or la norma es que acudan a este tipo de
reunión los directivos de la empresa it is standard practice for the directors of the
company to attend this kind of meeting

norma lingüística linguistic norm

Luck!
t

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I would NEVER normally disagree with Cecilia but in the case of laws governing labor rights and the legal status of immigrants, I have to say they would be regulations or rules.....rather than guidelines....unless this were about an information booklet being published to help foreigners know about their rights. I\'ll definitely stick to my original answer:-)))
t
Reference:

Oxford + vast exp.

Peer comment(s):

agree Ester Vidal (X)
1 min
Muchas gracias Ester:-)))
agree Peter Bagney : absolutely
3 mins
Thank you Peter:-)))
agree Сергей Лузан : ruls & regs
4 mins
Thank you again Ñåðãåé Ëóçàí...you're very kind:-)))
agree Rufino Pérez De La Sierra
5 mins
Muchas gracias Rufino:-)))
agree Valeria Verona
6 mins
Mil gracias Vale:-)))
agree MikeGarcia
8 mins
Thanks again Mike!!..How'ya doin'?. Saludos calurosos desde México para Argentina:-)))
agree Lia Fail (X) : There's a linguistic overlap, normas are regulations
25 mins
Thank you Ailish:-)))
agree Maria Fernanda Rosales
36 mins
Muchas gracias María:-)))
agree Sheila Hardie
40 mins
Thank you "SJ":-)))
agree Patricia Mazzucco
2 hrs
Thank you Pat!..and I LOVED your early commentary about references: "Diccionario Mazzucco". Assuredly-wise words:-)))
agree Tania Marques-Cardoso
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agree Valeria Bratina
5 hrs
agree Sarah Ponting
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agree Paul Mably (X)
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standards or rules

thomas west, for example
rules of conduct, safety standards, technical standards
Peer comment(s):

agree Patricia Mazzucco
2 hrs
agree Paul Mably (X)
8 hrs
agree Rosa Garcia : mrsrag1981/ruless sounds right
2 days 41 mins
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Rules or policies

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1 hr

guidelines vs. rules

In one example, "norms" may be guidelines (in the EU, a norm or directive passed by the European Commission cannot be imposed on a country, for example); the more usual meaning is "rules". If the application of such rules is difficult to measure, these are usually guidelines.
Peer comment(s):

agree Esther Hermida : Estoy de acuerdo. Yo diría guidelines
41 mins
neutral Terry Burgess : Sorry dear but in this case....I don't think so:-)))
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standards

Normas = standards
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norms

Everything the other answerers have said is correct.

But the term "norm/s" does exist in English -- and it has connotations beyond "standard" or "rule".\

It often occurs in contexts relating to commonly held expectations about proper human conduct.

The following short text should interest you:

DEFEND LABOUR RIGHTS
Labour Rights and Human Rights
The Links

Rights in the world of work - eg the right to organise in unions, the right to collective bargaining, health & safety etc, are governed by legal codes which must conform with the International Labour Organisation (ILO) conventions that reflect the accepted international norms. In civil and political affairs, in social, cultural and environmental matters, the international minimum standards for rights we should all enjoy are framed in conventions based on the Universal Declaration of Human Rights.

http://www.amnesty.org/ailib/intcam/tunion/1998/article3.htm

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Also, see The Blackwell Dictionary of Twentieth Century Thought p. 425:-

NORM: At its most general the idea of a norm is the idea of a pattern. There are two main ways in which this idea has been developed in social theory, where social norms have been the focus of concern. First, there is the idea of a norm as an actual pattern of behaviour, as what is \'normal\' in the sense of being regularly or standardly done by members of a population. (...) Second, there is the idea of a norm as a prescribed pattern: as what is considered in a given population to be the thing to do. (...) Social norms are often associated with expectations. Two different kinds of expectation need to be distinguished: predictive expectations about what in fact will be done by members of a population, and normative or deontic expectations. Normative expectations involve a belief that the \'expected\' behaviour ought to occur, in some more than merely predictive sense .... (etc.)
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