Glossary entry (derived from question below)
Spanish term or phrase:
propuesta de desenganche
English translation:
breakaway proposal
Added to glossary by
James A. Walsh
May 23, 2010 18:50
14 yrs ago
Spanish term
Spain
A cut above the rest in translation...
Native in: English (Variants: US, UK, Irish) 
, Spanish (Variants: Standard-Spain, Latin American)
Works in: Spanish to English, French to English, English to Spanish, and 2 more.
desenganche
Spanish to English
Tech/Engineering
Construction / Civil Engineering
Company Presentation
Good evening fellow ProZians,
This is from the same PowerPoint presentation I referred to in my previous question. Basically, a ridiculously large Spanish multinational is streamlining their IT infrastructure across the many different business units that make up their group, and have devised a mega-project to outsource the implementation of the required changes.
I understand what is being said here perfectly, but just cannot think of a neat way of expressing it in English. They’re basically saying that any proposals that straw away from, or deviate from their mega-project must be able to justify that the alternative suggested is better than the offers received from outsourcers in terms of the points listed.
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Here’s the context:
Esfuerzo de Comunicación: Necesidad de integración de todas las Unidades de Negocio y de comunicación del valor para el Grupo. Equilibrio entre participación y consenso y decisiones firmes amparadas en la estrategia del Grupo.
- Participación y retroalimentación constante entre los diferentes actores y responsables involucrados en el proyecto
- Cualquier propuesta de “desenganche” debe justificar que la alternativa presentada es mejor que las ofertas recibidas en:
o Eliminación del riesgo operativo
o Reducción de los costes de explotación futuros
o Provisión de una solución técnica que sea compatible con los sistemas del Grupo XXX (seguridad, comunicaciones, etc.)
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Can anyone think of a way of expressing this neatly in UK English? I would prefer a 1-word solution to keep things in line with the original (but if needs must, of course I will do whatever is needed).
Many thanks in advance.
This is from the same PowerPoint presentation I referred to in my previous question. Basically, a ridiculously large Spanish multinational is streamlining their IT infrastructure across the many different business units that make up their group, and have devised a mega-project to outsource the implementation of the required changes.
I understand what is being said here perfectly, but just cannot think of a neat way of expressing it in English. They’re basically saying that any proposals that straw away from, or deviate from their mega-project must be able to justify that the alternative suggested is better than the offers received from outsourcers in terms of the points listed.
____________________________________________________
Here’s the context:
Esfuerzo de Comunicación: Necesidad de integración de todas las Unidades de Negocio y de comunicación del valor para el Grupo. Equilibrio entre participación y consenso y decisiones firmes amparadas en la estrategia del Grupo.
- Participación y retroalimentación constante entre los diferentes actores y responsables involucrados en el proyecto
- Cualquier propuesta de “desenganche” debe justificar que la alternativa presentada es mejor que las ofertas recibidas en:
o Eliminación del riesgo operativo
o Reducción de los costes de explotación futuros
o Provisión de una solución técnica que sea compatible con los sistemas del Grupo XXX (seguridad, comunicaciones, etc.)
___________________________________________________
Can anyone think of a way of expressing this neatly in UK English? I would prefer a 1-word solution to keep things in line with the original (but if needs must, of course I will do whatever is needed).
Many thanks in advance.
Proposed translations
(English)
| 3 | breakaway proposal |
Andrew Langdon-Davies (X)
|
| 4 | detaching |
Leonardo Lamarche
|
| 4 | alternative proposals |
Jennifer Levey
|
| 4 | disengangement |
axies
|
| 3 | uncoupling |
Gad Kohenov
|
| 3 | digression |
Kevin Melody
|
Proposed translations
52 mins
Selected
breakaway proposal
?
Note from asker:
| Andrew, I don't like it, I LOVE IT! As soon as I read this I had a light-bulb moment. Thanks very much indeed :)) |
4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer.
Comment: "Thanks again Andrew. Most helpful. Saludos."
17 mins
Gad Kohenov
Israel
Israel
Works in field
Israel
30 years of experience+satisfied clients
Native in: French , Hebrew
Works in: English to Hebrew, Hebrew to English, French to Hebrew, and 8 more.
Related KudoZ points
:
44
uncoupling
Suggestion.
Note from asker:
| Thanks Desertfox :) |
34 mins
Kevin Melody
United States
United States
Native in English
United States
Finished and more by deadline or before.
Native in: English (Variant: US)
Works in: Spanish to English
Related KudoZ points
:
7
digression
James: I think you are just fine with "deviation". But if you'd like a "poetic" alternative (because digression primarily pertains to the spoken word), this is my suggestion. Suerte!
Note from asker:
| Thanks Kevin :) |
2 hrs
Leonardo Lamarche
Venezuela
Venezuela
Native in Spanish
Venezuela
Leonardo Lamarche Translator
Native in: Spanish
Works in: English to Spanish, Spanish to English
Related KudoZ points
:
102
detaching
any detaching proposal must justify that the option given is better...
Mi sugerencia.
Mi sugerencia.
Note from asker:
| Thanks Leonardo. |
5 hrs
Jennifer Levey
Chile
Chile
Native in English
Chile
Human-scale Globalization
Native in: English (Variant: British)
Works in: Spanish to English, French to English, English to Spanish, and 2 more.
Related KudoZ points
:
374
alternative proposals
It may not be what Asker likes to call 'neat' - but it is the usual term in this context.
I suspect this mega-multinational would like to be understood - even if, as a consequence, it doesn't appear to be the neatest set-up on the block.
Invitation to Tender Model - [ Traducir esta página ]
1 Aug 2008 ... APPENDIX C TO THE FORM OF TENDER ALTERNATIVE PROPOSALS [Include here any alternative proposals you wish to submit for consideration, ...
www.docstoc.com › ... › Londons Global University - En cachéProjecTeam Guidance on Tender Evaluation - [ Traducir esta página ]
2.5 The tenderer is entitled to submit alternative proposals unless the OJEC advertisement stated otherwise. CUP GN59C (Model Invitation to Tender) sets out ...
www.projecteam.demon.co.uk/evaluation.html - En caché - Similares[DOC] This is a sample tender document used for - 257503 - [ Traducir esta página ]
Formato de archivo: Microsoft Word - Versión en HTML
UNIVERSITY COLLEGE DUBLIN Request for Tender Proposals. SECTION A. INTRODUCTION ..... Alternative proposals favourable to the BUYER may be suggested. ...
www.ucd.ie/procure/html/homepage/genericeutender .doc - Similares[DOC] Vol 1 - Setup of Tender Document.doc - MINISTRY OF ELECTRICITY AND ... - [ Traducir esta página ]
Formato de archivo: Microsoft Word - Versión en HTML
Alternative Proposals. 1.15. Procedure for Review of Proposals & Contract Award. 1.16. Employer's and Tender Board's Rights. 1.17. Addenda ...
www.bahwanengineering.com/.../Vol 1 - Setup of Tender Docum...[DOC] Invitation to Tender - [ Traducir esta página ]
Formato de archivo: Microsoft Word - Versión en HTML
However, if contractors wish they may submit alternative proposals in addition to the ... could additionally submit an electronic version of their tender. ...
www.equalityni.org/archive/word/ResTenderGuide0106.doc[DOC] TERMS OF REFERENCE - [ Traducir esta página ]
Formato de archivo: Microsoft Word - Versión en HTML
This Tender Evaluation Plan sets out the proposed evaluation process. .... the work in accordance with the tender documents. 8.0 ALTERNATIVE PROPOSALS ...
www.fmd.qut.edu.au/.../tender_evaluation_plan_build_$500k_to_$5m.doc - Similares
I suspect this mega-multinational would like to be understood - even if, as a consequence, it doesn't appear to be the neatest set-up on the block.
Invitation to Tender Model - [ Traducir esta página ]
1 Aug 2008 ... APPENDIX C TO THE FORM OF TENDER ALTERNATIVE PROPOSALS [Include here any alternative proposals you wish to submit for consideration, ...
www.docstoc.com › ... › Londons Global University - En cachéProjecTeam Guidance on Tender Evaluation - [ Traducir esta página ]
2.5 The tenderer is entitled to submit alternative proposals unless the OJEC advertisement stated otherwise. CUP GN59C (Model Invitation to Tender) sets out ...
www.projecteam.demon.co.uk/evaluation.html - En caché - Similares[DOC] This is a sample tender document used for - 257503 - [ Traducir esta página ]
Formato de archivo: Microsoft Word - Versión en HTML
UNIVERSITY COLLEGE DUBLIN Request for Tender Proposals. SECTION A. INTRODUCTION ..... Alternative proposals favourable to the BUYER may be suggested. ...
www.ucd.ie/procure/html/homepage/genericeutender .doc - Similares[DOC] Vol 1 - Setup of Tender Document.doc - MINISTRY OF ELECTRICITY AND ... - [ Traducir esta página ]
Formato de archivo: Microsoft Word - Versión en HTML
Alternative Proposals. 1.15. Procedure for Review of Proposals & Contract Award. 1.16. Employer's and Tender Board's Rights. 1.17. Addenda ...
www.bahwanengineering.com/.../Vol 1 - Setup of Tender Docum...[DOC] Invitation to Tender - [ Traducir esta página ]
Formato de archivo: Microsoft Word - Versión en HTML
However, if contractors wish they may submit alternative proposals in addition to the ... could additionally submit an electronic version of their tender. ...
www.equalityni.org/archive/word/ResTenderGuide0106.doc[DOC] TERMS OF REFERENCE - [ Traducir esta página ]
Formato de archivo: Microsoft Word - Versión en HTML
This Tender Evaluation Plan sets out the proposed evaluation process. .... the work in accordance with the tender documents. 8.0 ALTERNATIVE PROPOSALS ...
www.fmd.qut.edu.au/.../tender_evaluation_plan_build_$500k_to_$5m.doc - Similares
Note from asker:
| Thanks Mediamatrix. |
| Thanks Robin, not what I'd call neat, nor the 'usual term' in this context, actually; but thanks for your input — appreciated, as ever!. |
12 hrs
disengangement
or disengaging from the contract.
see Google.com Disengaging/disengagement fro a contract.
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Note added at 12 hrs (2010-05-24 07:19:46 GMT)
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Error,sorry, disengagement and not disengangement
see Google.com Disengaging/disengagement fro a contract.
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Note added at 12 hrs (2010-05-24 07:19:46 GMT)
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Error,sorry, disengagement and not disengangement
Note from asker:
| Thanks Manuel. |
Discussion
"- Participación y retroalimentación constante entre los diferentes actores y responsables involucrados en el proyecto
- Cualquier propuesta de “desenganche” debe justificar que la alternativa presentada es mejor que las ofertas recibidas en:
o Eliminación del riesgo operativo
o Reducción de los costes de explotación futuros
o Provisión de una solución técnica que sea compatible con los sistemas del Grupo XXX (seguridad, comunicaciones, etc.)”
"- Ongoing participation and feedback between the various players and stakeholders involved in the project
- “Breakaway” proposals will be considered — but the suggested technical solution must match or exceed the offers received in terms of:
o Removing operational risks
o Reducing future operating costs
o Being fully compatible with YYY’s systems (security, communications, etc.)”
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Draft
But the English translation eludes me. Hope that this idea brings in a fresh departure.