Nov 24, 2009 02:26
15 yrs ago
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Spanish term

Dr. vs. Lic. y Esq., Att'y., and Lawyer

Spanish to English Law/Patents Certificates, Diplomas, Licenses, CVs declaración jurada voluntaria boliviana
No entiendo cómo traducir/distinguir entre las abreviaturas Dr. y Lic. en general pero más que todo en una declaración jurada voluntaria boliviana. Sólo presente es una abogada qué lleva el título "Dra." En su sello se clasifica como "ABOGADA, Notaria de Fe Pública". He visto Lic. traducido como Esq. y Dr. traducido como Att'y., pero sin saber cual tipo de licensia se tiene alguien o aún si tiene licensia (puede ser que se está actuándose como un abogado sin tener la licensia de ejercer derecho). ¿Cómo distingo entre las abreviaturas para los "abogados" cuando estoy traduciendo Dr., Lic., Esq. y Att'y.? What would Esq. and Att'y. be abbreviated as in Spanish if not as Dr. or Lic.?

The following are quoted definitions from Black's Law Dictionary, Eighth Edition, which I thought might help to distinguish between the legal terms in English.

esquire: A title of courtesy commonly appended after the name of a lawyer. --Abbr. Esq.

lawyer: One who is licensed to practice law.

attorney: 1. Strictly, one who is designated to transact business for another; a legal agent. Also termed attorney-in-fact; private attorney 2. A person who practices law; LAWYER. --(Also termed (in sense 2) attorney-at-law; public attorney...--Abbr. att'y.
Proposed translations (English)
4 ..., Attorney-at-Law...
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Discussion

Christine Walsh Nov 27, 2009:
Extremely useful Many thanks
Karen Vincent-Jones (X) Nov 27, 2009:
Useful reference You may find this useful

http://www.wisegeek.com/what-is-the-difference-between-an-at...
sol y luna (asker) Nov 27, 2009:
Esq. Esquire, if I am not mistaken, besides referring to a lawyer, can also in the U.K. refer to a person whose title is lower than a knight but higher than a gentleman. However, that is a separate definition for an esquire. I am really looking for advice about the distinctions between classifications of lawyers in Spanish and how to recognize them in abbreviations when I see them. Help regarding that would be greatly appreciated. Also, lawyers in the U.S. very commonly use the abbrevions XXX, .Esq and YYY, Att'y. in the U.S. Typically there is almost always a title included. If there are any other abbreviations you are aware of for lawyers and can supply with their meaning, I would greatly appreciate those as well. Best Regards, sol y luna
Karen Vincent-Jones (X) Nov 24, 2009:
Esquire? This sounds very old-fashioned. In UK it is only- and rarely- found in formal letters/addresses, e.g. John Smith, Esq.
Christine Walsh Nov 24, 2009:
En la Argentina por lo menos es costumbre decir Dr./Dra. a los abogados, pero en realidad casi nunca han hecho un posgrado.

Proposed translations

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I've generally gone with the rule that lawyers' names don't have any title attached in English. In a formal or academic sense you could add JD after the name to signify that they have a legal qualification, but in common parlance they are Mr. or Mrs. So in short, just leave the "Dra." out as she probably does not have a doctorate.
Peer comment(s):

neutral Karen Vincent-Jones (X) : She may not be married, either. Why not use 'Ms' ?
6 hrs
Thanks, very good point.
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Note added at 19 hrs (2009-11-24 21:47:05 GMT)
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