Veronika McLaren (asker) Nov 21, 2019:

Thanks once more, Björn I will keep all that in mind. Best wishes to you as well

Björn Vrooman Nov 18, 2019:

Hi Veronika First off, thanks for the reply!

Yes, you could have waited; KudoZ will close questions automatically after two weeks as long as an answer has attracted at least two "agrees." You can even reopen questions that you closed without grading by asking a ProZ staff member, but there is no need to go through all that trouble now.

Getting points is not that important to me; the important thing is that what I wrote helped you. And since you've closed nearly all of your questions by choosing one of the available answers, not grading one or two of your Qs hardly matters.

I usually post something in the d-box so the asker can judge the contribution ASAP; however, as several people on this forum can tell you, it takes me quite some time to post an actual answer, since I usually take a second look at the Q and research some more before I feel sure enough that I have compiled as much info as possible.

Also, if I remember that right, even the asker can add an entry to the glossary.

Best wishes

Veronika McLaren (asker) Nov 17, 2019:

Once again, thanks heaps for all the information which is very useful to have. I settled for the "basic unit rent" as it seemed to cover it for my purposes. I have no idea how many units to the building(s) in question (in different cities, same tenants) as only "Obergeschoss" and resp., third floor were mentioned. Sorry I didn't wait to give points - could I have done so?

Björn Vrooman Nov 17, 2019:

As for... ...Grundmiete/Einzelmiete, the slash stands for "bzw.," which, in turn, means it's a synonym. See, for example, section 3 on the second page of this document (where Einzelmiete is in parentheses): https://www.vbw-bochum.de/fileadmin/medienablage/user_upload...

Another link:
"Grundmiete bzw. Einzelmiete

= Netto-Kaltmiete

+ Betriebskosten (Ausnahme sind Kosten für Heizung und Warmwasser)

= Brutto-Kaltmiete

+ Betriebskosten für Heizung und Warmwasser

= Brutto-Warmmiete"
https://bwb-benndorf.de/index.php?id=8718&BIPID=f64a0d7f6cd2...

Best

Björn Vrooman Nov 17, 2019:

Hello Veronika I was waiting for some more d-box posts, possibly. I apologize. As for, "perhaps the amount is different when the rent is paid a month at a time," I have never seen this happen in Germany. Yes, you could pay in advance for more than a month, but it is frowned upon, basically because tenants then enjoy some degree of legal protection.

Say you pay for a few months in advance and then you stop paying; you don't want
to know how hard it is to get someone out of an apartment thereafter (even if you have a court order and everything). Maybe you get' em out after a year, maybe never.

What I was wondering about, if I still may ask this question, is whether Einzelmiete is showing up for all units of the Wohnungs- und Gewerbebau. Interestingly enough, in a situation like this, the Kostenmiete or Einzelmiete seems to be oaid only for residential units.

However, even if the word is used as a "normal" compound with no special meaning, basic (without utilities) and unit (for all commercial/residential units) rent should be fine. The scope of the CAN law, BTW, is somewhat limited (i.e., residential buildings) but not that limited (social housing).

Best wishes

Veronika McLaren (asker) Nov 17, 2019:

Grundmiete/Einzelmiete on another website, that is

Veronika McLaren (asker) Nov 17, 2019:

Thanks everyone for all the help. While I did see Grundmiete/Einzelmiete juxtaposed, I was unsure whether that meant they were the same thing. I thought arguments could be made for any of the options proposed since it appeared that perhaps the amount is different when the rent is paid a month at a time, hence single or individual rent. I suppose I will have to close w/o grading...

David Moore (X) Nov 16, 2019:

Hi Veronika: I'd suggest the easiest option is to use "basic rent", adding (excluding all extraneous charges) - if you feel it necessary.
Basic rent is after all "basic rent", innit... .

Björn Vrooman Nov 15, 2019:

Thanks... ...also for the added info. And best of luck!

I'll try to see if I can't find a bit more in the next hours; Friday is always a bit chaotic, I suppose.

Veronika McLaren (asker) Nov 15, 2019:

Sorry about the lack of context. So often, time is of the essence and I have a couple of these rental agreements.

Veronika McLaren (asker) Nov 15, 2019:

Thank you Björn, It is indeed a Wohnungs-und Gewerbebau company and not a question of subsidized housing, but rather rental on a short term basis. From everything else I have looked up, I would say "basic unit rent" is likely what is meant. Please make it a suggestion?

Björn Vrooman Nov 15, 2019:

This here... ...should be closer to home: https://www.ontario.ca/laws/statute/92r11

It's Ontario's Rent Control Act. There, it says:
"(1) In this section,

'basic unit rent' means the amount obtained when all separate charges are subtracted from the rent; ('loyer de base du logement')"

'separate charges' means that part of the rent that a landlord charges separately for any service, facility, privilege, accommodation or thing that the landlord provides for the tenant in respect of the tenant’s occupancy of the rental unit. ('charges distinctes')"

Separate charges are something like Umlagen. In German:
"Grundmiete bzw. Einzelmiete
(Miete ohne jegliche Betriebskosten, sofern im
Mietvertrag nichts anderes vereinbart ist)
= Netto-Kaltmiete"
https://www.offenbach.de/medien/bindata/soh/Dokumente_ESO-1/...

In any case, maybe the above document helps with some other stuff as well.

Best wishes

Björn Vrooman Nov 15, 2019:

Hello Veronika I assume that this is to do with Sec. 8 of the WoBindG: https://www.gesetze-im-internet.de/wobindg/__8a.html

As you've correctly noted, it's the base rent, as they say in CA (see p. 13; though this might include utilites):
http://beverlyhills-ca.gov/cbhfiles/storage/files/1569830431...

In your case, I'd choose "unit rent": " A landlord shall not be authorized to place into effect any apartment unit rent increase unless the landlord has given to the tenant(s) involved advance written notice of the proposed rent increase in accordance with the requirements of state law."
http://www.beverlyhillsca.gov/cbhfiles/storage/files/1077993...

However, I'm referring to the US, not Canada, so I'm not sure how well that works.

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