Glossary entry (derived from question below)
German term or phrase:
Zustandsstörer
English translation:
disturber of the orderly state
Added to glossary by
Thomas Melletat (X)
Apr 16, 2004 06:46
20 yrs ago
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German term
Thomas Melletat (X)
Zustandsstörer
German to English
Law/Patents
Law (general)
Zivilrecht
Wenn der Gegenstand eines Eigentümers die öffentliche Sicherheit stört, so ist der Eigentümer "Zustandsstörer".
Proposed translations
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| 4 | disturber of the orderly state |
BBaur (X)
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| 3 +2 | disturber of public order |
bap
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| 4 +1 | disturber through situation,ownership or possession |
miccaela
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| 4 +1 | Public nuisance |
Ellen Zittinger
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| 4 | troublemaker |
gangels (X)
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Proposed translations
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German term (edited):
Zustandsst�rer
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disturber of the orderly state
http://www.umweltbundesamt.de/glossar/glossary.pdf
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Note added at 18 hrs 16 mins (2004-04-17 01:02:39 GMT)
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Bei Köbler (Köbler, Gerhard: Rechtsenglisch: deutsch-englisches und englisch-deutsches Rechtswörterbuch für jedermann.) habe ich noch \"disturber by state\" gefunden, aber ich glaube, dass der oben erwähnte Ausdruck eher zutreffend ist. Zustandsstörer im Glossar des Umweltbundesamtes bezieht sich auf den Zustandsstörer bei Altlasten.
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Note added at 18 hrs 16 mins (2004-04-17 01:02:39 GMT)
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Bei Köbler (Köbler, Gerhard: Rechtsenglisch: deutsch-englisches und englisch-deutsches Rechtswörterbuch für jedermann.) habe ich noch \"disturber by state\" gefunden, aber ich glaube, dass der oben erwähnte Ausdruck eher zutreffend ist. Zustandsstörer im Glossar des Umweltbundesamtes bezieht sich auf den Zustandsstörer bei Altlasten.
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Comment: "Scheint mir hier am Passendsten zu sein. Eine in den USA praktizierende RAin bestätigte mir auch, dass man diese Beschreibung als zutreffend annehmen könne, auch wenn es grundsätzlich immer nur eine Krücke sein kann, wenn man einen feststehenden Rechtsbegriff umschreibt."
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German term (edited):
Zustandsstoerer
disturber of public order
would be appropriate.
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Note added at 8 mins (2004-04-16 06:54:58 GMT)
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\"it seems that the authorities exceeded their commissions
treating each politically active person as a disturber of the public order\" www.khpg.org/index.php?au=0315030305
\"disturber of the peace\" may also work.
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Note added at 44 mins (2004-04-16 07:30:56 GMT)
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Yes, I actually had the same misgivings initially. Romain does give my translation, but they may be referring exclusively to a more political or public law context (although their supplementary explanation \"person legally responsible for conduct necessitating intervention by the state\" does arguably fit your context too). You may be looking for the term desribing someone who commits a public or common nuisance, a tortfeasor perhaps: a more specific term escapes me at the moment (not sure one exists, though).
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Note added at 8 mins (2004-04-16 06:54:58 GMT)
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\"it seems that the authorities exceeded their commissions
treating each politically active person as a disturber of the public order\" www.khpg.org/index.php?au=0315030305
\"disturber of the peace\" may also work.
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Note added at 44 mins (2004-04-16 07:30:56 GMT)
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Yes, I actually had the same misgivings initially. Romain does give my translation, but they may be referring exclusively to a more political or public law context (although their supplementary explanation \"person legally responsible for conduct necessitating intervention by the state\" does arguably fit your context too). You may be looking for the term desribing someone who commits a public or common nuisance, a tortfeasor perhaps: a more specific term escapes me at the moment (not sure one exists, though).
Peer comment(s):
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Agius Language & Translation
: I like your second suggestion
23 mins
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| agree |
Mario Marcolin
: disturber of the peace
2 hrs
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German term (edited):
Zustandsst�rer
disturber through situation,ownership or possession
This is what EURODICAUTOM says: Störer,der für die Beseitigung von Gefahren und Störungen,die sich unmittelbar aus dem polizeiwidrigen Zustand der Sache ergeben,verantwortlich ist,wobei weder eine Schuldfähigkeit noch ein konkretes privat-oder strafrechtliches Verschulden vorausgesetzt wird. BUWAL,Altlasten-Glossar,1995,S.23
SAEFL,Glossary of contaminated sites,1995,p.34
SAEFL,Glossary of contaminated sites,1995,p.34
Peer comment(s):
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AMuller
: Zustandstörer is someone who can become liable through ownership of a dangerous article alone, as opposed to a Handlungs-/Verhaltensstörer, who has to do something wrong. Maybe you could also say "the person is subject to owner's liability"
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5 hrs
troublemaker
a party guilty of disturbing the peace
+1
13 hrs
Ellen Zittinger
Native in German
&
English
Works in field
Educator/Realtor/Securities Rep/Agent
Native in: English 
, German
Works in: English to German, German to English
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German term (edited):
Zustandsst�rer
Public nuisance
public disturbance
Peer comment(s):
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desiderata (X)
: "nusiance", and "public" as the public's interest is affected here. US law distinguishes between a private nuisance and a public nuisance depending on interests affected
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