German term
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Dan McCrosky (X)
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Trudy Peters
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Anthony Frey
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0 | per procuration |
Ulrike Lieder (X)
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Beth Kantus
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Apr 24, 2006 19:37: Steffen Walter changed "Field (specific)" from "(none)" to "Law: Contract(s)"
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Neither NODE or Pons mention the German Prokurist's real authority to negotiate, act and deal for the business when discussing "per pro". Leipzig's answer "Authorized Officer" sounds better to me (as an American) for a real German Prokurist because the term "per proxy" again only conveys the connotation of voting or marriage and also people feel that the proxy is only a sort of messenger with the power to act in one specific, cut-and-dried, limited function. A modern German "Prokurist" normally has considerable, flexible authority and responsibility, similar to a corporate officer.
The problem still remains: what does someone in the UK call a company official with the power, authority and responsibility of a German Prokurist (p.pa.) and what should be written at the bottom of an important contract where he signs?
I'm sure this has only made matters worse, sorry - Dan
P.S. – Langenscheidt shows two German abbreviations for "PER PROCURATIONEM": - ppa. and p.pa.
per proxy
Good luck!
signed for or on behalf of
Dan McCrosky (X)
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Daniel Trujillo
: Agree. In Colombia we use the phrase "por poder" meaning that the signatory was acting on behalf of someone else and that renders the actual signature valid and binding.
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per procuration
See also the following:
If someone negotiates a physician's checks under a power of attorney, he/she typically prints the physician's name on the back of the check and enters his/her signature below, followed by "p.p." or "p.p.a." (for per procuration, per power of attorney, or power of attorney).
www.aamc.org/private/deans/afad/deanmemo/dm1999/99_48.htm
ppa.
(com) = per procuram
per procuration
(com) per Prokura, ppa. (ie, abbreviated: per pro)
per pro signature
(com) Prokura-Unterschrift f (eg, XY Bank, per pro John Doe)
HTH.
concur with uel's answer
more definitions
According to DIN 5008 (Aufbau eines Geschäftsbriefes),
i.A. (im Auftrag) bezeichnet Einzelvollmacht, d.h. die Mitarbeiter/in, der/die unterschreibt ist in diesem einzelnen Fall dazu berechtigt.
i.V. (in Vollmacht, in Vertretung). Der/die Unterschreibende ist zu mehreren Rechtsgeschäften auf unbeschränkte Zeit berechtigt.
ppa. (per procura). Der/die Unterschreibende besitzt Prokura.
Bei mehreren Unterschriften steht die der/des Ranghöheren links.
I found the following definitions in West's Law & Commercial Dictionary in Five Languages:
Per procuration (per proc./, p.p.) By proxy; by one acting as an agent with special powers, as under a letter of attorney. These words give notice to all persons that the agent is acting under a special and limited authority. The phrase is commonly abbrerviated to per proc., or p.p. and is more used in the civil law and in England than in American law. A proxy or signature of a principal executed by an agent who discloses his role as agent on the document.
German: in Vollmacht, in Vertretung, (per) Prokura (Wertpapierzeichnung)
Procuration - Agency; proxy; the act of constituting another one's attorney in fact. The act by which one person gives power to another to act in his place, as he could do himself. Action under a power of attorney or other constitution of agency. Indorsing a bill or note "by procuration" is doing it as proxy for another or by his authority. The use of the word procuration (usually, per procuratione, or abbreviated to per proc. or p.p.) on a promissory note by an agent is notice that the agent has but a limited authority to sign.
German: Besorgung, Verschaffung, Vollmacht, Prokura, Stellvertretung.
Agency - Relation in which one person acts for or represents another by latter's authority ... The relation created by express or implied contract or by law, whereby one party delegates the transaction of some lawful business with more or less discretionary power to another ...
See also ...General agency, ...
German: Stellvertretung, Beveollmächtigung, Auftragsverhältnis
General agency - An agency which exists when there is a delegation to do all acts connected with a particular trade, business, or employment. It implies authority on the part of the agent to act without restriction or qualification in all matters relating to the business of his principal.
German: Generalvertretung, Prokura, Handlungsvollmacht.
General agent - one who is authorized to act for his principal in all matters concerning particular business or employment of particular nature.
German: allgemeiner Bevollmächtigter, Handlungsbevollmächtigter, Generalvertreter.
Handlungsvollmacht - Ger. commercial proxy; this proxy power may be given by any merchant and need not be explicit (e.g. by acquiescence). The commercial proxy is not entered in the commercial register. Signatures by a commercial proxy are customarily followed by the abbreviation i.V. ("in Vertretung").
German: Generalhandlungsvollmacht, Spezialhandlungsvollmacht, Anhandlungsvollmacht.
That's a lot of definitions. It would seem that the term general agent would most closely fit Prokurist in the sense as defined by Dan in his answer. But Prokurists are, to my knowledge, listed in the commercial registry.
Hope this helps more than it confuses! - Beth
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Margit - this is quite an important subject, please do not let Henry or Troy bulldoze you into grading the question till someone comes up with a really good answer. - Dan
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