Feb 16, 2010 10:20
14 yrs ago
German term

Söldner

German to English Social Sciences Certificates, Diplomas, Licenses, CVs Eheschliessung
in einem alten österr. Dokument als berufsbezeichnung: gemeint ist damit jedoch nicht ein berufssoldat sondern ein Kleinbauer
siehe Definition: http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sölde

Sölde bezeichnet:

in Bayern Hof und Grund eines „Söldners“. Siehe Sölde (Landwirtschaft).
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Discussion

Armorel Young Feb 16, 2010:
smallholder/labourer Might be a way of combining the two implications of the word - the fact that he has some land of his own but also has to work elsewhere to supplement his income.
Elisabeth Kissel Feb 16, 2010:
I think the footnote thing is a good idea - there doesn't seem to be a direct translation (one word) to do it any other way. Please let us know what you end up deciding upon..
Simona Volpe-Adeoye (asker) Feb 16, 2010:
yes that is the meaning of "Söldner" - but as you said it sounds rather modern as an expression and I am not quiet sure if it fits in my context - it is an old official document
What do you think about peasant - I know it is not really the same but maybe with an explanantion in a footnote ?
Elisabeth Kissel Feb 16, 2010:
part-time farmer rather modern expression, but I think this is what is meant: someone who has to supplement their farming (income) through other means.
Elisabeth Kissel Feb 16, 2010:
Hi Simona, I misunderstood the meaning of 'soelde', so I've amended my answer. Do you think this might be what you're looking for?
Simona Volpe-Adeoye (asker) Feb 16, 2010:
but a Söldner can also be the owner of a small farm and land

Proposed translations

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cottager

Söldner:
All-but landless peasant.
(Duby, Georges. Rural Economy and Country Life in the Medieval West, 555)
See http://www.netserf.org/Glossary/s.cfm

Cottager:
A peasant of lower class, with a cottage, but with little or no land.
(MEDIEV-L. Medieval Terms)
Related terms: Cottars
See http://www.netserf.org/Glossary/C.cfm#416

"A Söldner in the above context is a Taglöhner (day labourer) or Häusler, and not a mercenary. It is a man, a cottager, who has a very small farm house (cf. your above quote of "Sölde"), or lives on a bigger farm in one or two rooms. He owns a little land, a small garden, and perhaps some animals, so a small farmer. As all this is not enough to support him and his family, he works small extra jobs by the day."
See http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/read/BADEN-WURTTEMB...

"The man is described by Feyerabend as a Soldner, which can mean either 'cottager' or 'mercenary' (cf. Feyerabend, Ottenbeuren Jahrbucher, m, 61, for an instance where Soldner unequivocally means 'cottager') The latter reading does gain support from the man's assumption of military leadership, but the two possibilities are hardly mutually exclusive Not only were mercenaries disproportionately recruited from the humbler ranks of rural society, but Feyerabend's own source, the 'Chronologia Ottoburana' of Gallus Sandholzer (c. 1600) explicitly describes the man as 'a poor Soldner from Sontheim' ('ain armer soldner von Sontheim') StAA, KL Ottobeuren 8 (Mu. B ), 717-18"
See http://past.oxfordjournals.org/cgi/reprint/171/1/30.pdf
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small farmer

small farmer

sources:

Devoted to the Land: My Farming Ancestors « What's Past is Prologue - 1 Jun 2009 ... Then there was the söldner, who owned either 1/8, 1/16, or 1/32 of a farm. That may sound small, but there is even a lower designation – a ...
pastprologue.wordpress.com/.../devoted-to-the-land-my-farming-ancestors/ -

RootsWeb: BADEN-WURTTEMBERG-L [BW] more on söldner - 8 Jan 2008 ... soeldner (small farmer) und schuhmacher (shoemaker) weber (weaver); soeldner (small farmer); ... [BW] more on söldner by "klbonnell" <> ...
searches2.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/read/BADEN.../2008.../1199844634

CommonMan--Docs - Item, a small farmer [Söldner] shall give him also a measure each of rye and oats and shall split wood for the bathhouse for one day. The commune shall give ...
www.uoregon.edu/~dluebke/.../CommonMan--Docs.html -

RootsWeb: BADEN-WURTTEMBERG-L [B-W] söldner - 7 Nov 2001 ... "söldner" and I hope the person that sent it won't be offended if I share it ... It is a man, a cottager, who has a very small farm ...
archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/read/.../1005137681 -

RootsWeb: BAVARIAN-ANCESTORS-L [BAV-ANCES] Explanation of an "Inman" - 13 Nov 2000 ... the occupations are listed as Häusler, Söldner (both are types of small farmers) and Inman. The following is an excerpt from of an article ...
listsearches.rootsweb.com/th/read/.../2000.../0974157668 -
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Reference comments

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Reference:

A definition

Söldner: Smallholders providing corvée labour with their
hands
http://assets.cambridge.org/97805218/31925/frontmatter/97805...
Peer comments on this reference comment:

agree Ingeborg Gowans (X) : interesting link; I think the document in question that needs to be translated was dated 1900 and this article refers to a time span up to the 18th century; so I'mjust wondering whether this still applies to the 1900s?
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agree Derek Gill Franßen : Your term "smallholder" helped me come to my (different) suggestion. :)
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