Glossary entry (derived from question below)
German term or phrase:
Baureihen der G-Klasse
English translation:
G-class models / models (in the G-class series)
Added to glossary by
Mary Burdman
May 7, 2020 15:04
4 yrs ago
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German term
United States
Baureihe
German to English
Tech/Engineering
Automotive / Cars & Trucks
Mercedes Benz designations
Can someone tell me the proper translation for *Baureihe* for Mercedes-Benz cars into US English?
I would assume 'model' would be correct, but I am a bit confounded by the 'Classes' etc. I am translating a piece on the G-Class,
in which there are various references to Modell and Baureihe, as well as Klasse.
Context:
Die Baureihen der G-Klasse
Der G 350 d basiert als einziger Professional auf der Baureihe 463.
Der Motor stammte aus den damaligen PKW-Baureihen.
Many thanks, and hope everyone is well!
Mary
I would assume 'model' would be correct, but I am a bit confounded by the 'Classes' etc. I am translating a piece on the G-Class,
in which there are various references to Modell and Baureihe, as well as Klasse.
Context:
Die Baureihen der G-Klasse
Der G 350 d basiert als einziger Professional auf der Baureihe 463.
Der Motor stammte aus den damaligen PKW-Baureihen.
Many thanks, and hope everyone is well!
Mary
Proposed translations
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| 4 | G-class models / models (in the G-class series) |
Alexander Schleber (X)
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| 3 +9 | series |
Becca Resnik
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| 5 +1 | model series |
Abigail Weller
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| 4 | series variant |
Johannes Gleim
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| 3 | construction or production series |
Tiziana Pescatori
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Change log
May 10, 2020 12:29: Mary Burdman changed "Edited KOG entry" from "<a href="/profile/1347497">Mary Burdman's</a> old entry - "Baureihe "" to ""G-class models / models (in the G-class series)""
Proposed translations
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Alexander Schleber (X)
Belgium
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G-class models / models (in the G-class series)
Since the letter G is used by MB for its series of terrain vehicles, I would prefer "models in the G-class series" (long version) or "G-class models", where it is assumed that the G-class is a series. Lots of links can be found for this on Google.
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Ventnai
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Thanks!
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Johannes Gleim
: With Björn: "Baureihe" does not mean "G-Class models". This is true.
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Comment: "Actually what I was looking for was not a general term, but specific for Mercedes (and not all carmakers) and I found only very few references to 'series' on their US websites, so I find this answer the best. Thank you for all the contributions."
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Becca Resnik
United States
United States
Native in English
United States
Real engineering & clinical experience
Native in: English (Variants: US South, US) 
Works in: German to English, Japanese to English, English
series
Looks like they say "463 series" in English.
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Note added at 7 mins (2020-05-07 15:12:19 GMT)
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Also basing that off the fact that we use the term "series" this way in the heavy machinery industry, although it's a bit of an informal term.
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Note added at 14 mins (2020-05-07 15:19:19 GMT)
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Thinking also about the analog between "reihe" and "series," by the way, in case nothing completely official is found.
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Note added at 7 mins (2020-05-07 15:12:19 GMT)
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Also basing that off the fact that we use the term "series" this way in the heavy machinery industry, although it's a bit of an informal term.
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Note added at 14 mins (2020-05-07 15:19:19 GMT)
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Thinking also about the analog between "reihe" and "series," by the way, in case nothing completely official is found.
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Catriona C.
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Ines R.
: serie (singular) according to the question
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Thanks! We say "series" for singular and plural, though. An English oddity. :) https://www.merriam-webster.com/words-at-play/series-singula...
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philgoddard
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Ramey Rieger (X)
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Edith Kelly
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Ventnai
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Lydia Molea
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Schtroumpf (X)
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Tiziana Pescatori
Italy
Italy
Italy
Social sciences and literature
Native in: Italian (Variant: Standard-Italy)
Works in: German to Italian, English to Italian, Italian, and 1 more.
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Abigail Weller
United Kingdom
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Works in: German to English
model series
This is the EN US translation for Baureihe given in Daimler’s online terminology database.
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Schtroumpf (X)
: Difficult to agree with as long as no link is provided.// Well then, access to in-house terminology is a really good point!
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Sorry, I can’t provide a link because you need login details from Daimler to access their terminology database.
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Johannes Gleim
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Works in field
40 years Engineer, 20 years translations
Native in: German
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series variant
In order to prove that "series variant" is used by Mercedes-Benz, esp. for its G-Class, I searched for these items and found
About 1.630 results (0,45 seconds)
Some links below:
Mercedes EQ Concept First Drive: ...
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“We have been able to save a lot of the concept for the series variant,” Sälzle says.
https://mercedesblog.com/mercedes-eq-concept-first-drive-ele...
Furthermore, the German luxury car manufacturer has expanded the ends of its range, offering high cost performance variants and ultra-luxury vehicles using its AMG and Maybach monikers …. In the US, this comes packaged inside of the CLA and GLA, …
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A GLB-Class mini SUV should be out around the time that gets to dealerships as well. As for the AMG GT, Mercedes will announce a Black Series variant as the current version of the car begins to get into its golden years while a four-door AMG GT, previewed by the AMG GT Concept, will be out by 2019 riding on the same platform as the E-Class. I
https://carbuzz.com/news/mercedes-to-completely-revamp-most-...
It looks like Mercedes is testing various aerodynamic configurations for the AMG GT R or even the Black Series variant of it as hinted by the overly aggressive look that the units are carrying.
https://www.benzinsider.com/2019/10/updates-on-the-developme...
The Sindelfingen station is located right outside the company’s Research & Development center, that is supervising the development of the Mercedes-Benz GLC F-Cell Plug-In. A production series variant is set to make its world debut later this year.
https://mercedesblog.com/hydrogen-filling-network-gets-expan...
For other classes and car manufacturer as well:
The new Mercedes-Benz CLA has just been presented in Las Vegas and it already sparked the imagination of the digital artists. The four-door coupe has been reimagined as a Shooting Brake by X-Tomi Design.
The series variant is expected to be presented at the Geneva Motor Show in March.
https://mercedesblog.com/render-so-how-will-the-future-merce...
First Look: BMW Concept Active Tourer
Pint-sized BMW plug-in hybrid concept hints at a future 1 Series variant.
:
Volkswagen Golf BlueMotion Concept
Next-gen Golf variant boasts 73.5 mpg and hits the road next summer.
https://www.roadandtrack.com/author/3017/asem-wasef/
About 1.630 results (0,45 seconds)
Some links below:
Mercedes EQ Concept First Drive: ...
:
“We have been able to save a lot of the concept for the series variant,” Sälzle says.
https://mercedesblog.com/mercedes-eq-concept-first-drive-ele...
Furthermore, the German luxury car manufacturer has expanded the ends of its range, offering high cost performance variants and ultra-luxury vehicles using its AMG and Maybach monikers …. In the US, this comes packaged inside of the CLA and GLA, …
:
A GLB-Class mini SUV should be out around the time that gets to dealerships as well. As for the AMG GT, Mercedes will announce a Black Series variant as the current version of the car begins to get into its golden years while a four-door AMG GT, previewed by the AMG GT Concept, will be out by 2019 riding on the same platform as the E-Class. I
https://carbuzz.com/news/mercedes-to-completely-revamp-most-...
It looks like Mercedes is testing various aerodynamic configurations for the AMG GT R or even the Black Series variant of it as hinted by the overly aggressive look that the units are carrying.
https://www.benzinsider.com/2019/10/updates-on-the-developme...
The Sindelfingen station is located right outside the company’s Research & Development center, that is supervising the development of the Mercedes-Benz GLC F-Cell Plug-In. A production series variant is set to make its world debut later this year.
https://mercedesblog.com/hydrogen-filling-network-gets-expan...
For other classes and car manufacturer as well:
The new Mercedes-Benz CLA has just been presented in Las Vegas and it already sparked the imagination of the digital artists. The four-door coupe has been reimagined as a Shooting Brake by X-Tomi Design.
The series variant is expected to be presented at the Geneva Motor Show in March.
https://mercedesblog.com/render-so-how-will-the-future-merce...
First Look: BMW Concept Active Tourer
Pint-sized BMW plug-in hybrid concept hints at a future 1 Series variant.
:
Volkswagen Golf BlueMotion Concept
Next-gen Golf variant boasts 73.5 mpg and hits the road next summer.
https://www.roadandtrack.com/author/3017/asem-wasef/
Discussion
Ich habe Mary lediglich darauf hingewiesen, dass der Glossar-Eintrag nicht mit dem englischen Begriff übereinstimmt, da Alexander den erweiterten Kontext nahm, was ich auch für völlig legitim halte (und selber auch schon so machen musste, weil der Suchbegriff zu kurz war).
Im Übrigen habe ich mir die Referenzen deiner vorherigen Antwort auch alle angeschaut und keine einzige überzeugende gefunden; fast alle ohne Bezug zum Thema und die erste war aus Indien. Es war aber US-Englisch gesucht.
Auch bei der jetzigen Version ist bis auf den carbuzz-Link keiner von einem Muttersprachler geschrieben und das merkt man; gerade die Mercedes-Blog-Links klingen seltsam stellenweise (von der Grammatik ganz abgesehen).
Grüße
Wäre noch schöner gewesen, auch meine Referenzenzen zu Motorrädern und Automobilen zu lesen. Dann nätte man aausgewogener urteilen köönen.
https://www.motor1.com/news/298643/mercedes-g350-d-diesel-po...
In any case, it would be great if you, or Alexander, could change the glossary entry. "Baureihe" does not mean "G-Class models"; Alexander suggested a translation for "Baureihen der G-Klasse."
Thanks and enjoy your Sunday!
Also, ich drohe Ihnen freundschaftlich damit, ein "Agree" mit der Begründung zu setzen, dass es kaum einen Unterschied zwischen Flugzeugen und Mercedessen gibt: Es haben schließlich beide Fenster, Türen und vor allem Räder.
Zum "Adäquateren" in Hülle und Fülle". Ich sehe niemanden, der seinen Vorschlag mit einer Referenz belegt hat, abgesehen von mir.
https://www.proz.com/kudoz/german-to-english/automotive-cars...
I am a bit puzzled why you aren't looking at two of the world's largest automakers for references. Both of them, Ford and GM, are headquartered in the States.
Here's a Baureihen example in German (in reference to GM):
https://autonotizen.de/neuigkeiten/general-motors-usa-werke-...
Regarding Tesla, btw, the term "model" is even part of the name: https://www.bavariadirekt.de/fahrzeugdaten/kfz-suche/tesla/
https://www.tesla.com/modelx
And half the time, afaik, people just say "car," but that's a topic for another day.
Best wishes
B Datum der Erstzulassung des Fahrzeugs
D.1 Marke, z.B. Mercedes -Benz
D.2 Typ/Variante/Version, z.B. G 350 D
D.3 Handelsbezeichnung(en)
E Fahrzeug-Identifizierungsnummer