Jul 23, 2021 21:29
3 yrs ago
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French term
mise en oreilles
French to English
Art/Literary
Music
musicology event
Any snappy ideas for this sort of preparatory 'warming up' seminar about a certain musical genre?
Mise en oreilles (conférence pré-concert)
Mise en oreilles (conférence pré-concert)
Proposed translations
(English)
Proposed translations
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17 hrs
Selected
Attune Your Ears at/with Our Pre-Concert Session(s)
As per my discussion entries and BBC Philarmonic link, I believe that if it is called a Pre-Concert Session by those in the know, that has to be included in English so the prospective audience etc. know what it is. Otherwise they will be having to try to work it out (! :-) ). However, even the French link given by @writeaway includes an explanation in the blurb included below the title (I have written this explanation here below, but not repeated the link). Thus, incorporating an explanation in a title written in English seems reasonable.
Les oreilles se préparent avant les concerts du festival via des rencontres animées par les étudiants du département de culture musicale.
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Please adjust prepositions and capitalisation accordingly. With all the chit-chat I've not got round to editing!
P.S. Orchestras/Musicians tune their instruments in advance of performances hence including tune in wording for the attendees seems a good play on words. :-)
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Note added at 17 hrs (2021-07-24 14:46:01 GMT)
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I have also just found a link that includes "Get in Tune with... " which you might prefer as that sounds snappier? I can't give you the actual link because the text comes up differently when I click on it, but this is my Google Search link. Or, if it doesn't work as a link, I Googled musicians tune instruments in advance of performance. If you put that in the Search, second entry down entitled Science of Music: Orchestral Tuning Exploratorium. The beginning of the entry then reads Get in tune with the San Francisco Youth Orchestra. Following on from that, I would most likely revise my answer as Get in Tune with Our Pre-Concert Session(s). Sounds snapppier to me. Attune bit more academic. Hope all this helps your ponderings. :-)
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Sorry forogt Google Search link. https://bit.ly/3eSoBnM (care of bit.ly!)
Les oreilles se préparent avant les concerts du festival via des rencontres animées par les étudiants du département de culture musicale.
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Note added at 17 hrs (2021-07-24 14:40:40 GMT)
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Please adjust prepositions and capitalisation accordingly. With all the chit-chat I've not got round to editing!
P.S. Orchestras/Musicians tune their instruments in advance of performances hence including tune in wording for the attendees seems a good play on words. :-)
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Note added at 17 hrs (2021-07-24 14:46:01 GMT)
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I have also just found a link that includes "Get in Tune with... " which you might prefer as that sounds snappier? I can't give you the actual link because the text comes up differently when I click on it, but this is my Google Search link. Or, if it doesn't work as a link, I Googled musicians tune instruments in advance of performance. If you put that in the Search, second entry down entitled Science of Music: Orchestral Tuning Exploratorium. The beginning of the entry then reads Get in tune with the San Francisco Youth Orchestra. Following on from that, I would most likely revise my answer as Get in Tune with Our Pre-Concert Session(s). Sounds snapppier to me. Attune bit more academic. Hope all this helps your ponderings. :-)
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Sorry forogt Google Search link. https://bit.ly/3eSoBnM (care of bit.ly!)
3 KudoZ points awarded for this answer.
Comment: "And thank you all, particularly Althea"
4 hrs
pre-concert warm up seminar
maybe
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snappy and might work
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Note added at 4 hrs (2021-07-24 02:11:19 GMT)
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snappy and might work
Peer comment(s):
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writeaway
: how does this work? warming up the audience or warming up the musicians? isn't this what asker already suggested herself? not so sure about how 'snappy' this is either. /ditto
1 hr
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you're a joy as always ...gushing with supportive compliments
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11 hrs
French term (edited):
Mise en oreilles
Setting the scene
A pre-concert talk setting the scene for the music that is to follow. A bit like mise-en-scène but for a concert.
"Setting the scene: the art of the pre-concert talk"
https://www.rhinegold.co.uk/classical_music/setting-scene-ar...
"This theme will be discussed by Thomas LaVoy and other special guests during a pre-concert talk, setting the scene for an exciting, celebratory evening at Greyfriars Kirk."
https://greyfriarskirk.com/events/edinburgh-royal-choral-uni...
"Setting the scene: the art of the pre-concert talk"
https://www.rhinegold.co.uk/classical_music/setting-scene-ar...
"This theme will be discussed by Thomas LaVoy and other special guests during a pre-concert talk, setting the scene for an exciting, celebratory evening at Greyfriars Kirk."
https://greyfriarskirk.com/events/edinburgh-royal-choral-uni...
13 hrs
pre-concert talks
I suggest considering this term. As far as I can see from the second link, it may imply either cultural discussion or listening to some pieces from the upcoming event
Reference:
https://www.carnegiehall.org/Events/Concert-Extras/Pre-Concert-Talks
http://www.communicating-music.eu/en/271/pre-concert-talks.html
12 hrs
Musical appetiser
The wordplay is with "mise en bouche": https://www.wordreference.com/fren/mise en bouche
Matches:
https://www.google.co.uk/search?q="musical appetiser"&ei=_97...
To whet your musical appetite
More matches than my first suggestion:
https://www.google.co.uk/search?q="To whet your musical appe...
Musical "aperitif"
Anything along the same lines, really.
At a push,
To tune [or attune] your ears
Someone else got there first, by a millennium or two, it appears...
"Lord, hear my cry! Attune Your ears to my humble prayer!"
!
HTH.
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To ormiston: sorry, I read parts of the Discussion, obviously not all of it.
I don't think I subconsciously took the idea in and then outputted it after!
I think the French is a bit artsy-smartsy and the English should really reflect that, but you're the one with the full context.
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Musical appetite whetter
Musictiser
Eardrum warm-up
(I don't like this one)
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And a reworked version of a previous answer:
Ear (and mind [for the lecture part]) attuner
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Might get there in the end...
The term is actually a standard term, used by the CNSMD (see http://www.cnsmd-lyon.fr/agenda/mises-en-oreilles), amongst others, and not a made-up jokey witticism, as you would think.
So:
"« mise en oreilles », mini-conférence durant laquelle chef ou soliste viennent disserter sur la composition du programme et livrer quelques clés de lecture utiles."
https://www.leducation-musicale.com/newsletters/breves1012.p... page 66
So, how about:
"SHORT LECTURE AND SOME KEYS FOR INTERPRETATION"
Dry and precise, fitting to the context.
Matches:
https://www.google.co.uk/search?q="musical appetiser"&ei=_97...
To whet your musical appetite
More matches than my first suggestion:
https://www.google.co.uk/search?q="To whet your musical appe...
Musical "aperitif"
Anything along the same lines, really.
At a push,
To tune [or attune] your ears
Someone else got there first, by a millennium or two, it appears...
"Lord, hear my cry! Attune Your ears to my humble prayer!"
!
HTH.
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Note added at 15 hrs (2021-07-24 13:13:24 GMT)
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To ormiston: sorry, I read parts of the Discussion, obviously not all of it.
I don't think I subconsciously took the idea in and then outputted it after!
I think the French is a bit artsy-smartsy and the English should really reflect that, but you're the one with the full context.
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Note added at 15 hrs (2021-07-24 13:19:52 GMT)
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Musical appetite whetter
Musictiser
Eardrum warm-up
(I don't like this one)
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Note added at 15 hrs (2021-07-24 13:21:18 GMT)
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And a reworked version of a previous answer:
Ear (and mind [for the lecture part]) attuner
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Note added at 16 hrs (2021-07-24 14:00:19 GMT)
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Might get there in the end...
The term is actually a standard term, used by the CNSMD (see http://www.cnsmd-lyon.fr/agenda/mises-en-oreilles), amongst others, and not a made-up jokey witticism, as you would think.
So:
"« mise en oreilles », mini-conférence durant laquelle chef ou soliste viennent disserter sur la composition du programme et livrer quelques clés de lecture utiles."
https://www.leducation-musicale.com/newsletters/breves1012.p... page 66
So, how about:
"SHORT LECTURE AND SOME KEYS FOR INTERPRETATION"
Dry and precise, fitting to the context.
Note from asker:
I half considered 'appetizer' (see above) but feel the emphasis is on the more academic introduction to the work... |
1 day 21 hrs
an "ears up"
... including the quotes, I think. This is meant as a jokey analogy with the modern English expression "heads up" (which I find a pretty annoying expression, as it happens, but which I also have to acknowledge is widely used).
The French is obviously playful in the sense that the whole event is about music.
The French is obviously playful in the sense that the whole event is about music.
Discussion
I had "attune" in the body of my first answer, as a very secondary suggestion.
For me, "Musical appetiser" was the obvious answer here (another reason why I shouldn't win the question), but the Asker didn't like that, that can happen and that's fine.
As I have already confirmed to Domini, she did nothing wrong at all.
I will also apologise to Domini, if she thinks she has been accused of anything.
The etiquette is complicated.
Yes, one of the longest discussions I've seen.
I thought the obvious answer was "Musical appetizer" (nothing in English can reproduce the pure lameness of the pun in French, and the inaccuracy of it, since the pre-event thing is a lecture, according to one of my sources).
@ormiston I am so very grateful for the points, but may seem to have missed this or I would not have posted a separate answer without checking with him as well. Happy to forego the points if that is correct form at this point. Either way, thank you again.
Anyway. Let the record show and so on.
Thank you and good night.
p.s. I love brainstorming exercises. Keeps the little grey cells en forme!
And guess what, I'm a she too....
And apologies @Ormiston. All these years and I incorrectly assumed you were a guy. Oops, my bad.
The equivalent of talking a lot about food before before eating some...
There is sometimes an explanatory introduction, allowing the performers to present their programme.
And yes the events involve the festival of Ambronay and they have used 'mise en oreilles' elsewhere. Do post suggestions to see what peers think...
Join us for a free pre-concert session to discover more about the orchestra and the music being performed. Members of the orchestra will give an insight into what tonight’s performance might involve.
https://www.rhinegold.co.uk/classical_music/setting-scene-ar...
https://greyfriarskirk.com/events/edinburgh-royal-choral-uni...
A bit like mise-en-scène but for a concert.
Do you mean this:
http://www.cnsmd-lyon.fr/agenda/mise-en-oreilles