Glossary entry (derived from question below)
French term or phrase:
AVC constitué
English translation:
completed/established CVA or stroke
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SJLD
Aug 15, 2010 07:47
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French term
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Native in: English
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AVC constitué
French to English
Medical
Medical (general)
stroke / CVA
I understand (and please correct me if I am wrong) that this is a stroke (or cerebrovascular accident) of the kind that leads to permanent damage, as opposed to a TIA (transient ischemic attack) or RIND (reversible ischemic neurological deficit) but cannot find an English translation. Trying to think purely logically, I was looking for something like: 'irreversible ischemic neurological deficit' but don't find many references to that. Can anyone send me in the direction of the right term? I do not have any further context, as the term simply appears on a death certificate, in a list.
Proposed translations
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| 5 +4 | established CVA or stroke |
SJLD
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| 4 +1 | evidence of stroke |
Sylvie Mathis
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| 3 | fullblown stroke |
Imanol
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| 2 | permanent |
MatthewLaSon
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References
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Bourth (X)
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| phlébite constituée 6 posts - 5 authors... |
liz askew
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Change log
Aug 16, 2010 17:35: SJLD changed "Edited KOG entry" from "<a href="/profile/21113">French2English's</a> old entry - "AVC constitué"" to ""established CVA or stroke""
Proposed translations
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established CVA or stroke
is what I would say
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as opposed to TIA or stroke-in-evolution/progression
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Of course if the person is dead it sounds a bit strange to say "established stroke" - he had a stroke, full stop.
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Explanation of the term in French:
http://www.med.univ-rennes1.fr/cerf/edicerf/NR/NR009.html
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"completed stroke" is probably the best option here
http://www.proz.com/kudoz/french_to_english/medical_general/...
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as opposed to TIA or stroke-in-evolution/progression
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Note added at 14 mins (2010-08-15 08:02:21 GMT)
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Of course if the person is dead it sounds a bit strange to say "established stroke" - he had a stroke, full stop.
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Explanation of the term in French:
http://www.med.univ-rennes1.fr/cerf/edicerf/NR/NR009.html
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"completed stroke" is probably the best option here
http://www.proz.com/kudoz/french_to_english/medical_general/...
Peer comment(s):
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liz askew
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thanks Liz :-)
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Kevin SC
: so would I, Doc.
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thanks Kevin :-)
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Rachel Fell
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thanks Rachel :-)
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Michael Barnett
: I like it! Any motorcycle tour this summer?
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hi Michael! No, nothing this year - and weather is awful anyway!
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4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer.
Comment: "Thank you SJLD for all your input on this one, which has sent me in the right direction. I was sort of getting there, but much more slowly... and your help - plus that of the other contributors to the discussion, has been invaluable. "
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Sylvie Mathis
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evidence of stroke
There are many occurences on Google.
"32% of patients with AF had clinical evidence of stroke compared with 16.7% of those without such evidence (P<0.001). "
"32% of patients with AF had clinical evidence of stroke compared with 16.7% of those without such evidence (P<0.001). "
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permanent
Hello,
I'm not medical expert (far from it), but I'm wandering why "AVC constitué" seems to be constrasted with "AVC transitoire"
L'AVC, qu'il soit constitué ou transitoire, est une grande urgence. Les premières heures sont primordiales ; les traitements, ...
http://www.google.com/#q="constitue ou transitoire"&hl=en&sa...
Cerveau : AVC constitué ou transitoire. Rein : proteinurie, insuffisance rénale. Autres vaisseaux : plaques d'athérome, maladie vasculaire périphérique ...
www.montpellier-wired.com/mw/IMG/Hypertension_arterielle.do...
I hope this helps.
I'm not medical expert (far from it), but I'm wandering why "AVC constitué" seems to be constrasted with "AVC transitoire"
L'AVC, qu'il soit constitué ou transitoire, est une grande urgence. Les premières heures sont primordiales ; les traitements, ...
http://www.google.com/#q="constitue ou transitoire"&hl=en&sa...
Cerveau : AVC constitué ou transitoire. Rein : proteinurie, insuffisance rénale. Autres vaisseaux : plaques d'athérome, maladie vasculaire périphérique ...
www.montpellier-wired.com/mw/IMG/Hypertension_arterielle.do...
I hope this helps.
1 day 2 hrs
fullblown stroke
"Yes you should regard TIA as a warning sign that all is not right with the blood supply to your brain. If the appropriate treatment is given, you might never have another one, but if it is ignored you are at greater risk of having a fullblown stroke." (http://books.google.fr/books?id=aAm0U5neW4cC&pg=PA8&lpg=PA8&...
It sounds less "scientific" than AVC constitué, but the meaning is the same. All depends on the type of text you are translating.
It sounds less "scientific" than AVC constitué, but the meaning is the same. All depends on the type of text you are translating.
Peer comment(s):
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SJLD
: it's a death certificate - a doctor would never write "fullblown stroke" as a diagnosis
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Reference comments
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Reference:
FWIW
Personally, I can't determine what constitué adds to AVC. The definitions of "completed stroke" do not suggest that it need necessarily be fatal.
Info. for what it's worth.
Accident ischémique cérébral constitué
Accident vasculaire cérébral secondaire à l'oblitération d'une artère (thrombo-embolie). La partie de cerveau non irriguée constitue l'infarctus ; elle perd ses fonctions et occasionne selon le territoire atteint une paralysie plus ou moins étendue, une perte de la parole, un coma...
http://dictionnaire.doctissimo.fr/definition-accident-ischem...
Accident vasculaire cérébral constitué
- Les accidents vasculaires cérébraux (AVC) constituent, en France et dans les pays développés, la 3° cause de mortalité et la 1° cause de handicap moteur.
- Les AVC incluent les infarctus cérébraux qui en constituent la première cause (80%), les hémorragies cérébrales ou hématomes intracérébraux (18%) et les hémorragies méningées (2%).
- Les manifestations cliniques se traduisent, selon le territoire atteint, par une paralysie plus ou moins étendue, une perte de la parole ou du langage, un coma... avec des risques séquellaires invalidants.
- La prescription de certains médicaments favorisant l'hypertension artérielle (risque majeur des AVC et surtout des hémorragies cérébrales), ou à risque vasculaire, est contre-indiquée en cas d'antécédents vasculaires ou au cours de l'accident cérébral.
http://dictionnaire.doctissimo.fr/definition-accident-vascul...
completed stroke
Neurology A stroke in which there is no further ischemia or loss of functional activity. See Cerebrovascular accident, Transient ischemic attack
http://medical-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/completed st...
completed stroke stroke syndrome reflecting the infarction of the vascular territory that is put at risk by a stenosis or occlusion of a feeding vessel.
http://medical-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/Cerebral inf...
This book describes the distinction between "completed stroke" and "stroke in evolution"
http://books.google.com/books?id=zJ1I4ETzfZUC&pg=PA256&lpg=P...
Progressing stroke: unstable, progressing neurologic deficits
Completed stroke: stable, non-progressing neurologic deficit
http://www.hc-sc.gc.ca/fniah-spnia/pubs/services/_nursing-in...
Info. for what it's worth.
Accident ischémique cérébral constitué
Accident vasculaire cérébral secondaire à l'oblitération d'une artère (thrombo-embolie). La partie de cerveau non irriguée constitue l'infarctus ; elle perd ses fonctions et occasionne selon le territoire atteint une paralysie plus ou moins étendue, une perte de la parole, un coma...
http://dictionnaire.doctissimo.fr/definition-accident-ischem...
Accident vasculaire cérébral constitué
- Les accidents vasculaires cérébraux (AVC) constituent, en France et dans les pays développés, la 3° cause de mortalité et la 1° cause de handicap moteur.
- Les AVC incluent les infarctus cérébraux qui en constituent la première cause (80%), les hémorragies cérébrales ou hématomes intracérébraux (18%) et les hémorragies méningées (2%).
- Les manifestations cliniques se traduisent, selon le territoire atteint, par une paralysie plus ou moins étendue, une perte de la parole ou du langage, un coma... avec des risques séquellaires invalidants.
- La prescription de certains médicaments favorisant l'hypertension artérielle (risque majeur des AVC et surtout des hémorragies cérébrales), ou à risque vasculaire, est contre-indiquée en cas d'antécédents vasculaires ou au cours de l'accident cérébral.
http://dictionnaire.doctissimo.fr/definition-accident-vascul...
completed stroke
Neurology A stroke in which there is no further ischemia or loss of functional activity. See Cerebrovascular accident, Transient ischemic attack
http://medical-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/completed st...
completed stroke stroke syndrome reflecting the infarction of the vascular territory that is put at risk by a stenosis or occlusion of a feeding vessel.
http://medical-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/Cerebral inf...
This book describes the distinction between "completed stroke" and "stroke in evolution"
http://books.google.com/books?id=zJ1I4ETzfZUC&pg=PA256&lpg=P...
Progressing stroke: unstable, progressing neurologic deficits
Completed stroke: stable, non-progressing neurologic deficit
http://www.hc-sc.gc.ca/fniah-spnia/pubs/services/_nursing-in...
Peer comments on this reference comment:
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SJLD
: see the Rennes univ. link in my post Le terme d'accident constitué se réfère donc uniquement à la stabilité du déficit sans tenir compte de sa sévérité ni de son évolution au-delà de 24 h.
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Reference:
phlébite constituée
6 posts - 5 authors - Last post: 20 Apr
Traitement de la thrombose veineuse constituée par les héparines de bas poids moléculaire : réflexion critique = Treatment of established ...
www.proz.com/kudoz/french.../3805528-phlébite_constituée.ht... - Cached
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I thought this had come up before..
6 posts - 5 authors - Last post: 20 Apr
Traitement de la thrombose veineuse constituée par les héparines de bas poids moléculaire : réflexion critique = Treatment of established ...
www.proz.com/kudoz/french.../3805528-phlébite_constituée.ht... - Cached
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I thought this had come up before..
Discussion
In English practice, the dichotomy is TIA and stroke: http://www.nhs.uk/pathways/stroke/Pages/Landing.aspx